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Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 12:12
by Pxtl
Core wins in this mod - the Arm needs a Vulcan or something as a counter to the Monkeylord. Plus, the peewees are a pain to manage compared to the ease of running a couple of Doomsdays.

Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 13:40
by Comp1337
PWs rock atm, use central build AI :wink:

And the gameplay atm is awful, mexxes that reduce your metal storage? wtf?
Core doesnt have any mobile AA. However the mexxes rape a swarm of 100 brawlers with 2 shots. Give the arm berthathing a range comparable to the monkeylord imo would help.

Most games end in a tie because of units are used as defence, and you will get an impenetrable defence not long into the game. Hawks anyone?

Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 17:46
by Zpock
The mexes reducing energy is so clever!!! In 2 games i was like WTF my units arnt doing anything... It has to stay!!!! so funny!!!

Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 23:29
by Nemo
Otherwise people would spam exploiters and have no reason to build attack units. This way, they at least have to build AKs.

One AK gives you as much storage as one exploiter loses.

The bertha is a general anti-mech weapon - 10k damage per round. 3-4 of them will end a monkeylord very, very quickly. I'm yet to see a monkeylord be a game decider, actually. Most of the time its built it ends up just cementing an already ended game. The fact that they have a huge radius around them in which plasma shells are actually SUCKED into it makes it a big honking target on the field.

As far as siegebreakers - use peewees to shell things at range, or set up berthas, or swarm with something...

On the other hand, core has the monkeylord's laser to smash defenses, as well as the sumo+shadow.

Sumo is core's mobile anti air.

I'm yet to see a truely impenetrable defense in this game, or anything even resembling one. Even two flashes or a few AKs in a base can wreck massive havoc.

Would it be worth me writing a short guide to the units? <_<

Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 05:01
by Min3mat
the whole fun is in trying them out!

Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 13:57
by Pxtl
Nemo wrote:Otherwise people would spam exploiters and have no reason to build attack units. This way, they at least have to build AKs.

One AK gives you as much storage as one exploiter loses.

The bertha is a general anti-mech weapon - 10k damage per round. 3-4 of them will end a monkeylord very, very quickly. I'm yet to see a monkeylord be a game decider, actually. Most of the time its built it ends up just cementing an already ended game. The fact that they have a huge radius around them in which plasma shells are actually SUCKED into it makes it a big honking target on the field.

As far as siegebreakers - use peewees to shell things at range, or set up berthas, or swarm with something...

On the other hand, core has the monkeylord's laser to smash defenses, as well as the sumo+shadow.

Sumo is core's mobile anti air.

I'm yet to see a truely impenetrable defense in this game, or anything even resembling one. Even two flashes or a few AKs in a base can wreck massive havoc.

Would it be worth me writing a short guide to the units? <_<
Well, you could beef up the in-game unit descriptions to reflect all that stuff you just said.

Edit: I was thinking, if you wanted to really go nuts, you could consider the fact that, with only a handful of units per faction and over 300 to choose from in AA, you could make like a dozen factions for n00berhack. n00berhack could be like a fighting game with a ton of different "characters" to choose from.

Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 15:16
by Tobi
Some screenshots I made when trying this out:
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Nemo, if you want 1024x768 versions PM me.

Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 15:28
by Das Bruce
What? Why only nemo? Post them fag! :P

Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 23:10
by jellyman
Random unit suggestion:

The flea. Has only 50 hitpoints. Has a range and LOS of 1800. Speed of a Hawk. And shoots sniper rounds.

Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 01:00
by Nemo
Pxtl wrote: Well, you could beef up the in-game unit descriptions to reflect all that stuff you just said.
Will be done next version. Didn't think to fix that before the release, sorry about that.
Edit: I was thinking, if you wanted to really go nuts, you could consider the fact that, with only a handful of units per faction and over 300 to choose from in AA, you could make like a dozen factions for n00berhack. n00berhack could be like a fighting game with a ton of different "characters" to choose from.
Mmm. Neat idea. In fact, VERY neat idea. However, that sounds like way more work than should be invested in such a silly little game. If I'm ever lacking for something to do for 1944, I'm definately going to look into doing that.

I'll poke around a little and fix a few things (# of movement classes, unit descriptions, some minor balance tweaks), and see about a new version.

Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 16:47
by Snipawolf
Zpock wrote:oh that was the problem

I have to say, this is a great mod!!!!!!!! Everyone should try it, other modders can learn a lot from it!.
Yeah right, I wonder what I could "learn" from this, maybe I should try it

Posted: 15 Jul 2006, 21:11
by Hunter0000
KDR_11k wrote:Yes but I don't think he was asking about just any BOS. He wanted a specific BOS and we're having a hard time trying to figure out what exactly it's supposed to do. I could make a flying mex that does the hokey-pokey but I don't think he'd want that.

Nemo, I think flying hokey-pokey mexs are a must.

..and how did the shadow removing-ness go? I but this would run waaaaay beeter (especialy under my nuclear carpet bombing) without so much(any?).

Posted: 15 Jul 2006, 22:16
by Nemo
doubled their buildtime, added 25% to hawk weapon damage vs them, will probably drop them down to one bomb per run.

Currently adding in the Orbital Ion Cannon for Arm.

Posted: 15 Jul 2006, 22:21
by Hunter0000
Nemo wrote:doubled their buildtime, added 25% to hawk weapon damage vs them, will probably drop them down to one bomb per run.

Currently adding in the Orbital Ion Cannon for Arm.
I meant graphical shadows but the shadow nerfage is good too =)

sounds good

Posted: 15 Jul 2006, 22:43
by smoth
quick question. Is this another OTA varient?

Posted: 15 Jul 2006, 22:49
by Nemo
sort of but not really. It uses a bunch of OTA models and units, but it plays nothing like it.

Only about 7 units per side right now.

And shadows? Do you mean smoke? I've been trying to create smokeless explosions, but no luck so far.

Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 08:56
by KDR_11k
Options->uncheck Enable Shadows?

Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 18:27
by Hunter0000
*is an idiot and meant smoke*


*Prepares to be slaped with the stupid stick*


And SMoth, go play a game of it and let me know if its an OTA varient heheehhe

*prepares the nukes*

Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 18:40
by smoth
Hunter I am too busy working on my mod. there are tons of mods I do not get to play.

Posted: 16 Jul 2006, 18:44
by Hunter0000
I was mosly joking

But if you ever do find yourself with an extra 5-10mins you can give it a shot, the games a very fast. I recomend a smallish map though (no bigger than 12x12 or I think) to avoid massive lag.