Mod Developers should not be Lobby moderators. Ever.

[Neddie]

I will admit that my moderation responsibilities have forced me to suspend my work for a few of the offerings on the engine.

[FLOZi]

So if someone starts greifing S44 games (the few we manage to keep ticking over), we have to sit back and wait till a moderator deals with it, instead of dealing with it ourselves.

(obviously s44 is a bad example because of neddie)

[Noruas]

I am mod developer, please give me the keys to drive the lobby car.

[Regret]

The question is; is it good for Spring for all mods to branch off into their own servers for that purpose?

No. No it is not.

It is good for Spring! The more servers running Spring the more popular it becomes.

[Forboding Angel]

I am mod developer, please give me the keys to drive the lobby car.

I second this. I expect my moderator powers because I make Evolution RTS, host springinfo, host a file mirror, host the only UF mirror in existence, host mods and maps, and I also host official spring installer mirror.

Mod keys please!

^^ Seriously, I fail to see how any of the above makes me ENTITLED to be a moderator.

[lurker]

spring installer mirror

Oh, you noticed that?

[Forboding Angel]

lol

[KingRaptor]

Funny, I'd nominate Nemo or Zsinj for moderator in a heartbeat...

A lot of famous content creators do have a bad social rep as far as the community goes, but that's not due to their being devs. Conflict of interest is rare, and another moderator can take over when it occurs anyway.

[Noruas]

Listen, I am the xta dev, I earn it by default, I will even moderate games by banning all those who host Balanced Annihilation, DSD and Speedmetal.

[Regret]

http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 73#p373673

There could also be "day of the mod X" once per month - when all non mod X games are closed or limited to just 1 autohost.
But i think people would just find it annoying they cannot play BA DSD.

But I would like "day of mod X" just to try all different mods there are properly..

I think this speaks for itself.

[Gota]

http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 73#p373673

There could also be "day of the mod X" once per month - when all non mod X games are closed or limited to just 1 autohost.
But i think people would just find it annoying they cannot play BA DSD.

But I would like "day of mod X" just to try all different mods there are properly..

I think this speaks for itself.

REGRET.
He fights for us.

[Otherside]

Hello i maek mod its called CBA its like CA but com moves 0.01 faster now gief lobby mod rights. i maeked mod

[CarRepairer]

Wow odd thread.

Why the hell not? Then engine devs shouldn't be, map makers, widget devs, ... Players probably not aswell..

Each of them can kick people if they don't like his work/gameplay. Of course no moderator should do that.

Exactly, the line you draw is way too arbitrary. I can even push it further than Meltrax and suggest only people who never heard of Spring should be devs. That's pure impartiality.

Does Senna count as a mod dev or is he just a map dev? Make modmaps and if you don't count you can stay as mod.

[Gota]

All complaints should go to whoever is one responsible for the server.
This person has the final authority over moderation.
If something is wrong he is the one that says the final word.

[Regret]

All complaints should go to whoever is one responsible for the server.
This person has the final authority over moderation.
If something is wrong he is the one that says the final word.

Hahahah seriously want Licho to be responsible for moderation?

[Gota]

All complaints should go to whoever is one responsible for the server.
This person has the final authority over moderation.
If something is wrong he is the one that says the final word.

Hahahah seriously want Licho to be responsible for moderation?

He IS responsible for moderation if he is the server admin.

Edit:
If Licho has the practical power of making moderators or taking moderation privileges he is the one responsible.

[Regret]

He IS responsible for moderation if he is the server admin.

Wrong. He is responsible for keeping the server running, not for moral decisions.

Providing hosting doesn't give you some higher value over others.

[CarRepairer]

He IS responsible for moderation if he is the server admin.

Wrong. He is responsible for keeping the server running, not for moral decisions.
Providing hosting doesn't give you some higher value over others.

responsible

value

Not the same.

The host is a moderator. He has ultimate powers. You can't just give them up unless you take your computer and put it in someone else's house.

[Regret]

The host is a moderator. He has ultimate powers. You can't just give them up unless you take your computer and put it in someone else's house.

He hosts the server. This fact does not in any way make him a candidate or a responsible moderator. I stand by the point that he is not responsible for the moderation or its staff. The community does not belong to him because he volunteered to host the server.

[CarRepairer]

The host is a moderator. He has ultimate powers. You can't just give them up unless you take your computer and put it in someone else's house.

He hosts the server. This fact does not in any way make him a candidate or a responsible moderator. I stand by the point that he is not responsible for the moderation or its staff. The community does not belong to him because he volunteered to host the server.

You are saying that someone should not be a moderator because they are hosting the site. But the "should" is not what's reality. As long as he has the ability to moderate, he's a moderator. I'm just being technical on the definition (just like others were before me). He can choose not to exercise that power, but he has that power. Just like any moderator who chooses not to do anything.