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should also take a look at using smurf's to vote rig which Ceiling/Regret like doing

Otherside wrote:should also take a look at using smurf's to vote rig which Ceiling/Regret like doing

Agreed, this is stupid. But AFAIK it has only been in response to someone who likes onlyto spec, but unspecs while votemaps are in progress, because he wants to spec another map.

IMO only the players should decide, and this kind of action should be also punished. As Licho said, its taking advantage of a faulty system. And i agree with him on the whole faultiness of the vote system - While ingame, votes should only succeed with majority, in lobby its fine with more yes then no.

or alternatively people could be civil and stop abusing the system funny how this has only become a major problem when regret started playing CA

Manner up k thx

Otherside wrote:or alternatively people could be civil and stop abusing the system funny how this has only become a major problem when regret started playing CA

Manner up k thx

I thinkn its "becoming a problem" since CA gains popularity. And if we cannot deal with the demands it brings, it will start to reflect itself in other ways, like abusing votesystems, or exploits in general.

My two cents on how to solve the 'problems':

1. Remove the ppl with rights who abuses em, and give rights to more trustworthy ppl.
2. Make votes succeed only with the majority of the players present while ingame.

extra penny: Play on (trustworthy) human hosts. Oh i remember the days when autohosts did not exist and ppl were expected to do their own teaming up... nostalgia...

CA wont increase in popularity if people keep Fucking around on the autohost that seems to happen alot nowadays.

a few days ago it took a full game with mostly ready people took 15+ mins to start because of ceiling and regret messing about.

Otherside wrote:a few days ago it took a full game with mostly ready people took 15+ mins to start because of ceiling and regret messing about.

Hey how about having a valid argument instead of just flaming people? Oh wait, silly me. Otherside and valid arguments don't go together

I have no idea what you're referring to.

Ive already said what you are guilty of and im not even directing personal attacks at you just stating the truth.

Ive made plenty of valid arguments b4 now stop complaining. You now you are guilty of mucking around with the auto host just admit it.

You and regret double vote with smurf's you also constantly try to change the map to comet even when other maps are voted in you just keep spam voting till people get tired of vote 2ing. If you want to have a monopoly on mod/map option just host your own game.

jennington wrote:Votekicking is hardly abuse of anything since anyone can, you know, !vote 2 if they want to It's just democracy.

It's not democracy if your vote gets counted two times. Regret used two accounts to vote.

reivanen wrote:You don't seem to get the point, do you?

My point is: using rights for personal benefit -> abuse of rights.

reivanen wrote:Someone starting a votekick for the personal benefit of his balls to stop aching while about to loose a game is not abuse of power.

It does not matter how small of insignificant the benefit is. Is stays abuse of rights.

reivanen wrote:It is a question to the co-players: Do you want to do this?

As Licho stated, ingame votes are hard to follow. You are busy playing your game have chats with allies, unit messages etc. You might not see it. I didn't see the !voteexit in the first game for example.

reivanen wrote:

Otherside wrote:should also take a look at using smurf's to vote rig which Ceiling/Regret like doing

Agreed, this is stupid. But AFAIK it has only been in response to someone who likes onlyto spec, but unspecs while votemaps are in progress, because he wants to spec another map.

Regret used 2 accounts to avoid being kicked.

reivanen wrote:You don't seem to get the point, do you? Someone starting a votekick for the personal benefit of his balls to stop aching while about to loose a game is not abuse of power. It is a question to the co-players: Do you want to do this?

Let's assume for a second that "you can vote against it" is a valid argument in this case (and ignoring the fact that the players to be kicked didn't do anything wrong).
With every successful votekick you remove a player from the autohost - so you remove a voter. At some point in time Regrets team would have the majority and could do vote successfully for anything they want. The remaining opposing team has no chance to stop anything.

EDIT: There were not just trying to remove voters. They were trying to remove votes which have contrary interests.

SirMaverick wrote:With every successful votekick you remove a player from the autohost - so you remove a voter. At some point in time Regrets team would have the majority and could do vote successfully for anything they want. The remaining opposing team has no chance to stop anything.

Ah the beauty of simplicity.

Regret wrote:Ah the beauty of simplicity.

so were you seriously trying to do this? because it's astonishingly pathetic.

tombom wrote:

Regret wrote:Ah the beauty of simplicity.

so were you seriously trying to do this? because it's astonishingly pathetic.

For the lulz.

tombom wrote:

Regret wrote:Ah the beauty of simplicity.

so were you seriously trying to do this? because it's astonishingly pathetic.

Dude, its regret... astonishingly pathetic is his modus operandi.

So, if nothing productive is to come, I'll just close this.