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I'm a bit miffed as to the russian attitude towards things politically, their hard handed manner. If anything didn't the soviet union show this was utterly futile? They're just generating masses of resentment in their backyard while being totally oblivious to it.

Sleksa wrote:- a killed journalist
- a russian ex-spy on uk

and several tens or hundreds thousand in Chechnya, nobody knows.

imbaczek wrote:

Sleksa wrote:- a killed journalist
- a russian ex-spy on uk

and several tens or hundreds thousand in Chechnya, nobody knows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_the ... age_crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_sch ... age_crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War


so the chechens killed ethnic russians, attacked kids at schools, and russia is to blame?

~ i like your logic

so what? I've never said chechens didn't kill anyone, just pointing out that russian did, too.

imbaczek wrote:so what? I've never said chechens didn't kill anyone, just pointing out that russian did, too.

those deaths could've been avoided if the chechens would have not started killing the russians in the first place~~

doesn't convince me in the slightest. AFAIK Grozny was one huge ruin when both of the terrorist attacks you point out happened; also, during both, russian forces screwed up _really_ bad. you also convienently ommit the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War#Effects.

Sleksa wrote:

imbaczek wrote:so what? I've never said chechens didn't kill anyone, just pointing out that russian did, too.

those deaths could've been avoided if the chechens would have not started killing the russians in the first place~~

when i read your wiki quotes i can see : first chechen war 1996 : 50-100k civilian dead ... 2002 and 2004 ... chechen make terrorist attack


so you're retarded or you quoted the wrong things

Satirik wrote:

Sleksa wrote:

imbaczek wrote:so what? I've never said chechens didn't kill anyone, just pointing out that russian did, too.

those deaths could've been avoided if the chechens would have not started killing the russians in the first place~~

when i read your wiki quotes i can see : first chechen war 1996 : 50-100k civilian dead ... 2002 and 2004 ... chechen make terrorist attack


so you're retarded or you quoted the wrong things

i dont follow you~~

The first chechen war , followed by the terrorist attacks where the terrorists killed kiddies started the second chechen war

what am i quoting wrong?

it doesn't start with terrorist attacks it starts with the first chechen war, the rest are just consequences ...

and you quoted the first chechen war not the 2nd one ...

edit: plus the terrorists attacks you quoted happenned after both chechen wars according to wiki

Sleksa wrote:

imbaczek wrote:

Sleksa wrote:- a killed journalist
- a russian ex-spy on uk

and several tens or hundreds thousand in Chechnya, nobody knows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_the ... age_crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_sch ... age_crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War


so the chechens killed ethnic russians, attacked kids at schools, and russia is to blame?

~ i like your logic

Atrocity validates extermination. That's why 9/11 allows the Americans the right to remove most of the governments in the middle east.

SwiftSpear wrote:Atrocity validates extermination. That's why 9/11 allows the Americans the right to remove most of the governments in the middle east.

Well it might give you the right to take action in some way but the question is to what extent you are allowed to do something and if there is a reason for an action at all. While it's even highly questionable for Afghanistan, it's pretty obvious that the war with Iraq was - well let's call it "random". Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 (in fact Al Kaida was one of Saddam's archfiends) and there also were no WMDs...

I also think that "Atrocity validates extermination." is a quite stupid attitude - especially not if you do your payback a thousand times more worse than what was done to you...

I'm not sure if you picked up that swiftspear was being sarcastic. Just want to be absolutely clear.

Well if that's the case I'm sorry...

Things like that are why I fill my posts with :)
:)

fuck yes the US should totally rape the middle east

nuke it so hard that only bacteria and twinkies can survive
why the fuck should a few hundred million brown fucks get in the way of american hegemony?

How did this get turned into a "bash the US" thread?

Decimator wrote:How did this get turned into a "bash the US" thread?

It's a politics-related discussion on the internet.

Decimator wrote:How did this get turned into a "bash the US" thread?

No matter how hard i hit that U.S.puppet with the shovel there are never any sweets falling out of it..

Let´s face it, BashUS Threads are fun, because you can blame nearly everything on them (The Weather is Bad, the US did it) and there are patriot Chars like Forb ready to explode, giving out loads of Lulz.. it´s Trolling on a bigger Scale...

So you're trolling then? I'll keep that in mind.

Decimator wrote:So you're trolling then? I'll keep that in mind.

He's PicassoCT. I mean, really.