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Sleksa wrote: how many armed and trained terrorists do you think are out there?

to hit the targets I am talking about you need wire cutters to get through the fence and to flip a few of the wrong levers.

sorry it is easy to take out. they could hire an illegal to do it.

Zoombie: yeah but the US people only seem to know about the islamists.

caydr: if they can get 1000 islamists into usa, im sure they could get guns from somewhere inside USA, its not like you have strict laws in there or anything about gun-ownership.

Snipawolf: if you were raised since 3 year old to believe in a higher power that wants you to kill as many enemies of your faith as possible, and not knowing how to read, how could you know better?

one day a imam will come to your house and offer your parents 2000$ if you blow yourself up/enlist to fight in some warzone. Knowing only that this is the only thing you've lived for so far, what would you do?

smoth wrote:

Sleksa wrote: how many armed and trained terrorists do you think are out there?

to hit the targets I am talking about you need wire cutters to get through the fence and to flip a few of the wrong levers.

sorry it is easy to take out. they could hire an illegal to do it.

you are still lacking a motive to harm a company that helps your own country out financially smoth.

The greater harm would be done to USA, not the oil company. It's not like people will just stop needing oil. If anything it'll give them another excuse to increase the cost massively.

It is a matter of religious conviction. If they are REALLY that committed to what they believe they would make the sacrifice. It is that simple. For us it would mean we are not getting oil out of our rigs on the coast which means we would need their oil more and the refinery explosion would put a huge nail in our petrol supply and if you want to piss an American off you hurt our WALLET.

Also we are moving away from oil so they in the next 20 years will be less usefull to us.

Of course, we aren't moving away as fast as we should or could be. A society is loathe to adapt when comfortable and lazy.

They dont want to kill every single american out of this world, they want you to get out from their area. But they still want to trade with the usa.

They are committed, thats why there arent much attacks on usa or london, but daily attacks in chechenya and israel.

again i repeat; usa is their tradepartner , on the other side of the planet, they got superior military. attacking usa would only divert resources from fighting israel and risking a takeover/attack on the current reign, they are simple but not retarded

much to my distaste the us gives Israel the hook up. Unless you missed that part. I personally wish we stayed the hell out of it. Esp when they used that shit to attack Lebanon. We are indirectly helping Israel.

Indirectly?

The U.S. shelters Israel in the United Nations, provides and has provided the state of Israel with military and industrial products.

indirectly as in we, ourselves did not shell Lebanon, we let israel have some equipment to do it.

just as evil in my books : - (

Sleksa wrote: Snipawolf: if you were raised since 3 year old to believe in a higher power that wants you to kill as many enemies of your faith as possible, and not knowing how to read, how could you know better?

Sadly, I've got close expirence with this. There is a Mormon kid I used to hang out with, before he graduated. And we had long, screaming loud arguments about evolution.

I'm like, look at the evidence! and he's tends to just say, I still don't believe it.

It's like bashing your head against a rock. Except, instead of a rock, it's a person. And instead of your head, it's your brain. And what bothers me, is he gets angry at me for not seeing his point of view, and he says that I'm just as brainwashed as I say he is...but my parents brought me up showing me quite a few different religions, letting me read multiple holy books and decide for my own self what was good and right. And I looked to science, becuase, let's face it, it makes the most gorram sense.

I mean, the Bible says: It was created because he says so, he being god. As to why, we don't know...he's god!

"How things works" says: It works like this, and here's why!

Well...now that I've gotten that off my chest, I'm going to step back and let you resume the discussing the mental capacity (or lack there of) of terrorists.

Mormons wear special underwear to keep out evil spirits, they're an unusual case.

Better not to talk about religions though, it's offensive to some.

Well, Relligion, like pretty much EVERY SINGLE THING ON THE PLANET, has good and bad. Good = People following the spirit, rather than the letter, being nice and kind to one another, helping people. Bad = Fundamentalist brain control nonsense.

Actually, other than our long arguments about evolution, we were great friends. Sorta. And he, and the Mormon church (of which my sister belongs too) have helped a lot of people and been really charitable and so on and so forth.

Pathetic... Whomever this is aimed at is probably least expecting it...

Sleksa wrote:just as evil in my books : - (

did I not say I was unhappy with the situation?

Snipawolf wrote:Pathetic... Whomever this is aimed at is probably least expecting it...

What is this responding too?

smoth wrote:

Sleksa wrote:just as evil in my books : - (

did I not say I was unhappy with the situation?

what are you doing about it?

the only thing I can trying to talk to others about it. However, in the south most of what I hear is religious sentimentality that the Israelis have all the right to be there because of some religious nonsense.