Spring RTS Engine

New release probably coming tomorrow, any outstanding crashes/big bugs?

you wrote:-Building wrong buildings en-masse or on metal spots

this hasn't been fixed yet? or is it a gameplay performance thing, and, as such, not important?

because you said that you know why, and if you are releasing another version...

What they mean si they ahve yet to start a working building palcement algorithm.

A few simple checks should prevent that sort of thing though, namely if(ud->type == string("MetalExtractor")) is the best way to detect mexes.

Bout the only thing Ive noticed is a tendency to stall in late game and not use the factories, but Im not sure why. Ill make it a point to figure it out tonight.

esteroth12 wrote:

you wrote:-Building wrong buildings en-masse or on metal spots

this hasn't been fixed yet? or is it a gameplay performance thing, and, as such, not important?

because you said that you know why, and if you are releasing another version...

Its just a debug thing while the new economy system and improved categorization is not done, its not a bug per se but a consequence of not yet having some major elements needed to know how to use all kinds of units. That will take a while to be "fixed" so dont count on it for next release... You can expect basic metal map support and minor improvements here and there though

DoW wrote:Bout the only thing Ive noticed is a tendency to stall in late game and not use the factories, but Im not sure why. Ill make it a point to figure it out tonight.

If its E stall i already know how and why, if its M stall then you need to tell all about it! again the fix will only come with the new economy which will take a while.
and how could i forget?? +1!

I have been testing KAI 0.11 in 5 or more FF battles. Maps were AsteroidBeltV2 and Comet Catcher Remake-v02 . In every case, game crashed with "An unhandled exception occured in the global ai dll, please contact the author of the ai" message. In some cases, I didn't even met enemy units. It was standard 1v1 battle, starting resources 1000 M and E, random placement. Shortest battle lasted less then 3 mins, longest about 5-10 mins. FF version was 1.17 and later on, 1.18. Still crashes.

ooops, you've got catch AI exceptions on in the options. turn it off

Yes, I know... I have tried both options, on and off, still errors, nothing changed (except that with off option selected, I don't receive that message, but thats obvious). I have spoken with Krogothe, problem is FF has all air units, no land ones. KAI seems to crash cause of it.

Kovin wrote:Yes, I know... I have tried both options, on and off, still errors, nothing changed (except that with off option selected, I don't receive that message, but thats obvious). I have spoken with Krogothe, problem is FF has all air units, no land ones. KAI seems to crash cause of it.

The crash is a cache bug + some logic errors. The demo will always crach because of it on mods like FF.

Release is delayed due to some bugs, but the more you wait the better KAI gets so its all good

About KAI's support for FF:
Atm. KAI's air support is just a basic hack of a few lines (if the time is this and that and we got at least x units, then attack some expencive stuff with everything). And all FF units are air so the attack/defense behaviour of kai wont be very exciting in FF in its current state. BUT! With a handful more infrastructure things that have been planned it will support controlling FF units way better. And air in general =)

Guys, im going away for a tour of england on monday and will be away for most of the weekend before that, its very short noticed but i didnt know i was going until today. This might delay the release further but Ill see what can be worked out before then. I couldnt code efficiently anyways with the broken debugger so it shouldnt be a major holdup. Ill try and keep everyone posted before monday but if im not, well see you on the 16-17th!

I captured an ai' con veh (lev1 core) after stealing it with an atals on comet catcher (5 other (ai's present ) when the unit was coverted the game crashed, something about unexpected something or other, sorry I cant remember exactly what, me and cabbage playing 6 ai's totally frazzled me... I just put my frosties on a dinner plate and put milk on them, ^^
see what KAI does to ya!

anyway, I didnt capture anymore bots and voila, me and cabbage vs 6 ai's , took us an hour to beat them and no crashes im pleased to say.

BigSteve wrote:I captured an ai' con veh (lev1 core) after stealing it with an atals on comet catcher (5 other (ai's present ) when the unit was coverted the game crashed, something about unexpected something or other, sorry I cant remember exactly what, me and cabbage playing 6 ai's totally frazzled me... I just put my frosties on a dinner plate and put milk on them, ^^
see what KAI does to ya!

anyway, I didnt capture anymore bots and voila, me and cabbage vs 6 ai's , took us an hour to beat them and no crashes im pleased to say.

This bug has been fixed. Giving it units is fixed too

Kor, when you get back, do you have it building water units yet?

And btw, THANK YOU for the universal mod suppourt! KAI is now the only AI I use.

So how's the next release candidate shaping up?

Kai seems way too slow to me, though.
10-20minutes can pass before anything happens. Even then, I can sometimes stroll over to their base after 20 min, and they've only got like 5 kbots.....

i experienced the exact opposite, kai is spreading over the whole map and sending hordes of units at me. if i give it time to do so ...

Vassago wrote:Kai seems way too slow to me, though.
10-20minutes can pass before anything happens. Even then, I can sometimes stroll over to their base after 20 min, and they've only got like 5 kbots.....

are you playing on linux or gamespeed 0.3 or something?