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Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

Various things about Spring that do not fit in any of the other forums listed below, including forum rules.

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knorke
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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AF wrote:Your empty moddb profile is particularly devoid of all knorkian things.
?
It shows my games profile, which I was pressured to create some time ago, here: http://www.moddb.com/members/knorke/games
Eitherway, I just want to access to post news via spring profile and edit its content. Where to click, who to ask?

smoth:
very constructive again.
At least it is now clear what you mean by "I am not interested in debating any point in this thread."
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PicassoCT
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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lets assume that in the beginning there is awesome stuff the world needs to be told about:

awesome stuff -> disfunctional infrastructure -> world doesent know


awesome stuff -> centrallised infrastructure -> at least a part of the world knows about it.

All we want to do is hijack your google+ profiles and dead comunity pages, its not like we eat something living ;)

"I ll rather let it rot, then have those guys at zk- or bar post stuff on there, or get the audience into the messy forum world. They are mine, my audience, my people- my prreeeeccccciouuusssss! Knorke baggins, wee haaates it!"
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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Finally:
http://www.moddb.com/engines/spring/new ... ngine-page

An in descriptions now says:
"This page is merely a hub for spring projects listed on moddb. For more information about the spring engine head on over to spring website. You will notice it on the right hand side of this page in the profile section"
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FLOZi
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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knorke wrote:Finally:
http://www.moddb.com/engines/spring/new ... ngine-page

An in descriptions now says:
"This page is merely a hub for spring projects listed on moddb. For more information about the spring engine head on over to spring website. You will notice it on the right hand side of this page in the profile section"
Big smiles all round :wink:
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smoth
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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smoth Mar 11, 2014 5:04 pm wrote: before you continue to step by step eat up my entire day. why don't you write out your list of issues then let me go through and tell you what can and cannot be done. I will try and see what I can do but you really really need to hear me on this, the site works a certain way. I cannot change it I can edit certain content areas and that is all.

I'll give an example:

Things knorke wants smoth to do on the moddb spring engine hub:
  • *switch the current summary with the blue text and set the summary to the profile page.
Was all I asked for, instead I work to get what you wanted out of you.
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knorke
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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The very first post in thread has my suggestions what to do with sites that nobody wants to maintain anymore:
Put a spring logo, put a note "Go to springrts.com for all spring needs"
Make it clear that this page is unofficial, any downloads that might be found do not work and that noone will provide support.
How excactly that happens is up to people who own the profiles.
It should not need a week of explaining and listing things: Motivation to think independently should not be expecting too much.

Compare for example BA peoplepersons who did not make such big discussion neither asked to list every little dead link. They just took the hint and looked at what can be done, on their own.
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but that implies all subpages are out of date etc. So I don't see that as correct. The KP downloads ARE valid. Who am I to invalidate the work of every game profile posted on moddb under the spring engine?

as far as comparing what others did. you had indicated that you wanted a very specific set of external handling with regards to the engine, a view which I don't really understand or agree with(possibly due to a lack of understanding). Many of your suggestions were invalid for the way the site works. In fact, me locking people from posting news or video to the engine page of spring may be demotivating for some content devs. They like seeing their names in flashing lights etc.

So I am not sure that solution was a viable one. I did the news post + lock down + summary edit as a GUESS. I am not sure what the staffers at moddb think of the way I did that. I may go and unlock the page in time so people CAN post news onto it. I am not really sure.

Either way, all I wanted was a bulleted list detailing what you wanted to have done so I could walk through it and demystify my answers with specific answers to your questions. As it stands now, outside of listing their project as using the engine, the users of that site cannot post anything to the spring engine section of the moddb profile.

I think it makes us look harsh and like the world revolves around this site. I did it anyway but I don't 100% agree with it because I don't know if it is a good idea. I cannot say that enough. I don't know why you could not just give me a simple bulleted list. It would have saved time and gotten directly to a series of action instead of all the "blah blah" you hate to have about understanding people's feelings. I don't understand you, I don't know you and if I am to act on something for you. I need to know what you want. I don't feel it was effectively communicated.
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but that implies all subpages are out of date etc. So I don't see that as correct. The KP downloads ARE valid.
Too many subpages are out date. If you feel a few good ones exist and that the note does them unjust: Then word the note more carefully.

KP: Those are 2 years old downloads, newer ones exist.
Which is probally why the KP moddb profile says:
Note: this moddb page having a very low activity, you might want to check:
- Kernel Panic page on SpringRTS.com wiki
- Kernel Panic subforum in SpringRTS.com forum


Either way, all I wanted was a bulleted list detailing what you wanted to have done so I could walk through it and demystify my answers with specific answers to your questions.
Moddb is only one of many sites.
It is not feasible when maintainers of sites want other people to tell them what to do in small detail.
If such level of counceling is required then the site maintainers are not doing their job, instead others would be doing it for them.
In fact, me locking people from posting news or video to the engine page of spring may be demotivating for some content devs. They like seeing their names in flashing lights etc.
It is the right thing to close it.
Foreboding was only one who posted a bit to it and even his last post was already a year old.
Last post by someone else was two years ago. This tells there was little interesst and people can still post to their own moddb-pages anyway.

I would not worry about moddb staff. They would not provide option to close site like that if they wanted nobody to make use of the option.
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smoth
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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knorke wrote:
Either way, all I wanted was a bulleted list detailing what you wanted to have done so I could walk through it and demystify my answers with specific answers to your questions.
Moddb is only one of many sites.
It is not feasible when maintainers of sites want other people to tell them what to do in small detail.
If such level of counseling is required then the site maintainers are not doing their job, instead others would be doing it for them.
It is your thread, your attempt to organize things. I felt the site was fine as it is. I was trying to help you test out what you proposed on the site.

I was trying to help you out with your initiative here.

as I said earlier, I did not and still don't fully agree/understand your point. I was only trying to help but was met with a bunch of condescending stuff and still am. You want to talk about how I am incapable of independent thought.. you know what, you will weasel your way out of these things and only try and retort with some sort of twisted quote. I came in the thread with the intention of trying to help you and get things done in a way that works with your overall idea.

you wanted someone to come in and handle the moddb page, I showed up and was very interested in helping. I don't see why that merits the purposefully dodgy nature with which you communicated with me. It was you desired initiative of course I am asking for specifics from YOU!
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Re: Unofficial spring pages / profiles on social media

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I felt the site was fine as it is.
I hope you feel different now and recognized why years old news and old downloads are not "fine".

Hopefully others will also begin to acknowledge problems because that is first step to any change.

I did not initiate anything.
In contray to the ones who create such profiles.
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