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Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 14:56
by Pxtl
KingRaptor wrote:
It takes 100 Twilight blasts to paralyse one jugg. Detonator needs five hits. Bladewings (lol) need 500 shots, and will get shredded by one Copperhead tagging along with the jugg.
Only EMP that can paralyze jugg is Stiletto,
which says more about the 'letto than it does about the jugg 
QFT, bold for emphasis.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 17:21
by Sleksa
KingRaptor wrote:
It takes 100 Twilight blasts to paralyse one jugg. Detonator needs five hits. Bladewings (lol) need 500 shots, and will get shredded by one Copperhead tagging along with the jugg.
Only EMP that can paralyze jugg is Stiletto, which says more about the 'letto than it does about the jugg Neutral
i dont understand this, could you explain what you are meaning?
what's that, BA is only for 1v1? well that's a shame, time for someone to fork this bitch then.
what are you waiting for?
instead of all the crap you've posted here you could've already made 5 different forks of aa/ba that are superior in balance to our own.
swiftspear:
If you want a voice you better be prepared to show that you know the game quite well before you can expect to be heard.
yes.
guy posts a wall of hate text over nothing and the solution is for everyone else to watch their attitude and force of character?
watch your own attitude before you cry about mine. do you honestly think any cow is going to take you seriously after something like this?
i have 300 hours, all team games. does that mean i know nothing about competitive BA? no, it means i know fuck all about 1v1s
regarding the things you have posted here, yeah i think you are not a good player.
i have Never seen you play, so either you are lying or you have played 300 hours worth of noob-bash matches
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 17:31
by Pxtl
Either the Stiletto does absurdly huge stun-damage, or other units do absurdly small stun-damage. For some reason the Stiletto's stun damage is several orders of magnitude higher than other stun-units. This is very strange.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 18:07
by Dragon45
this thread makes me lulz
and btw hunter is actually a pretty decent player. he knows his team games well and is really quite good at being good at them.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 18:32
by Sleksa
and btw hunter is actually a pretty decent player. he knows his team games well and is really quite good at being good at them.
ok, but i still think he should make his own fork instead of crying about the current one's balance, as there are more people thinking that the balance is good than people who think the balance is wrong.
i admit, there are flaws in the game, but that doesnt stop it from being fun and highly competitive.
that combined with the cows natural laziness means we dont want to release new versions every second day that fix some really minor issues.
we already got ca for that ;]
pxtl;
Either the Stiletto does absurdly huge stun-damage, or other units do absurdly small stun-damage. For some reason the Stiletto's stun damage is several orders of magnitude higher than other stun-units. This is very strange.
the other emp:ers are meant to do stun over time, ie they have small emp dmg values but they do it constantly to the unit, locking them down (spiders, bladewings) while the stilettto is meant to fly over, stun the enemy and run away in seconds, there is no chance to give it a small emp value.
so you are true,
stilettos do absurdly huge stun damage, as it is meant to do a "surprise" stun, while the others are meant to "lock down" the enemy with stun.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 19:56
by NOiZE
I think the stilleto EMP values might be a bit over the top, never really looked into it tbh.
And hunter, yes BA is mainly balanced with 1v1 in mind. Mainly because we think that 1v1 is what matters, considereing competition and skill. That is of coure OUR opinion. We never hold it secret though, that BA is balanced for 1v1.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 21:07
by RogerN
Leave the poor Stilleto alone! It's neglected enough already. Honestly, it's such a specialized unit that I don't see how it could be over the top. If a unit can be stunned then the stilleto stuns it; it's that simple. That's not "over the top" IMO - that's just what it's supposed to do.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 21:14
by NOiZE
RogerN wrote:Leave the poor Stilleto alone! It's neglected enough already. Honestly, it's such a specialized unit that I don't see how it could be over the top. If a unit can be stunned then the stilleto stuns it; it's that simple. That's not "over the top" IMO - that's just what it's supposed to do.
possibly less EMP damage is needed for the same effect, but then the jug wouldn't be insta EMPed. But like i said i havn't looked into it yet.
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 02:15
by det
5 or 6 Dragonfly can also keep a a Jugg paralyzed with ease.
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 12:17
by KingRaptor
Stilettoes are OP, but I don't want them nerfed because I love them too much >_>
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 13:05
by Sleksa
only in speedmetal
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 15:16
by Foxomaniac
stop teh stiletto hatin', get back to the usual :
vs
epic edit : replaced hueg, hilarious gator w/ smaller but still lulzy gater :[.
xbox edit : lolz, this post's ID is the same as the topic's ID.
COINCIDENCE?!
I THINK NOT!
Grab your tinfoil hats!
lol edit : it was a trap.
Posted: 09 Aug 2007, 17:53
by NOiZE
fox you ruined the forum format.
Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 18:02
by Sleksa
but made teh best joek in this thread \o/
Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 18:22
by lurker
Foxomaniac wrote:xbox edit : lolz, this post's ID is the same as the topic's ID.
COINCIDENCE?!
I THINK NOT!
Grab your tinfoil hats!
phail.
http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=11388
http://spring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtop ... 321#210321
11388 != 210321
Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 23:21
by LOrDo
LETS LAY DOWN SOME BASIC INFORMATION YOU SHOULD KNOW BUT APPARENTLY YOU DONT.
WarC are the developers of ba.
WarC do not give a shit about your balance input on this mod.
WarC does not want intelligent discussion with retards about balance.
do you honestly think we care about the ba forum posters?
do you think we take them seriously?
go back there and look at the replies we have made. Some ideas are good, majority just reek of idiocy.
DID YOU THINK WE WANT INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION OF THE BALANCE?
THINK AGAIN
WARC are composed of the finest players of ta:spring, WarC knows it can make a good balance for a mod, if we wanted your input, we'd ask it from you.
we balance this mod according to our own sense of balance.
your input is appreciated if its about finding bugs or other stuff like that, like saktoth has done, i appreciate him for that.
but you, hunterw.
i have never seen you play this mod.
this means you lack experience in competitive play of ba.
your lack of competitive experience means you do not have a proper sense of balance.
you not having proper sense of balance means you post shit you think is balanced/cool
you posting shit you think is cool/balanced leads to me flaming you down
me flaming you down leads to you crying about that or crying about the current state of balance.
i hate you
i think you have bad manners
and most of all
I THINK HACKS
I like this quote. It really shows how WarC chooses to think regarding themselves and BA, from a WarC member himself. Especially these:
WARC are composed of the finest players of ta:spring, WarC knows it can make a good balance for a mod
WarC do not give a shit about your balance input on this mod.
i have never seen you play this mod.
this means you lack experience in competitive play of ba.
WarC does not want intelligent discussion with retards about balance.
Im not representing anyone else here, but I don't want a bunch of ego-brained 1337ists running the mod everyone here plays.
Just another reason why Ive turned a blind eye to BA...
Don't give up CA!
Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 23:35
by Day
sleksa doesnt actually do anything concerning BA he just likes to trashtalk on the forums, just to make things clear :D
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 02:41
by LOrDo
Uh huh. So your saying he dosn't represent the rest of WarC?
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 05:15
by SwiftSpear
LOrDo wrote:Uh huh. So your saying he dosen't represent the rest of WarC?
WarC isn't a political party. It's a group of individuals who like to play with eachother. We don't have group representation, our opinions differ on many different subjects... Seriously... WTH were you thinking?
Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 05:36
by Neddie
Clans, like all groups of people, are comprised of individuals, each their own person with their own, or so we hope their own, opinions.