Gundam is too huge it makes my pee pee hurt!

[Satirik]

modern warfare just sux balls i wouldn't download and crack that crap even if it was instant download

[Johannes]

Cmon, what's the point in this? The filesize might be a big issue for someone, who has a bad connection wherever he lives, even if most people are totally capable of dling Gundam. And it might be a problem for someone with a good connection, cause that's how they roll for whatever inane reason.

But either way yuo can't do much about it by posting here, it's not like it's gonna change their connection or point of view. Even if they by some miracle saw this topic.

Damn and now my head hurts, wish I had some cocaine

[Forboding Angel]

Mmmm Cocaine

[1v0ry_k1ng]

my connection = 155kbps download speed

if I was interested, I could set 500mb downloading and have it in an hour.

if I just saw a game in the lobby, I would think 'I'm interested, but I dont want to sit here unable to play for an hour while it downloads, so I'll play somthing else and download it another time.'

that another day would be slow in coming but probably would, for me. for most springers marinated in the expectations of instant download and setup DSD 8v8, there would be no way. nothing wrong with a 500mb game, thats peanuts in modern gaming... but its not peanuts for the expectations of spring players, for whom 100mb is a huuuge download. down be suprised if your 500mb DL makes it even harder than it already is to get people to try the mod.

[smoth]

I guess part of the problem, that spring players are used to the instant fix gratification BOOM I can play. Unless we have a more efficient map format we are going to have really large maps for stuff like these maps. It would be nice if I could just whip up a mesh mapped to a 1024 or 2048 texture, I would like that but I cannot. So any real details will be non existent until then if I want to make a map small in size.

for example: gunmetal harbor:
models an textures: 13.4
ambient sounds: 1.42
map tile file: 66.4
splat map files: 30
defs, lua and gfx: 1.38

total >100mb

This is one map.

I could run a higher compression setting but mapconv's compression is HORRIBLY lossy. The splat files are going to big, it can't be helped.

So we get stuck either perpetuating the same lack of detail and quality or getting fussed at about filesizes. To be fair I have noticed the community is slowly bumping up to 20-30 megs a map but honestly that just covers splat and maybe models. Part of the issue I think is that people like you said are used to sitting in lobby waiting for the other guy to download. Why not just start the game and the guy can join the next match? This is what we did in the dailup days.

[knorke]

I guess part of the problem, that spring players are used to the instant fix gratification BOOM I can play.

no. i think spring players some of the most patient people you ever see online.

[smoth]

Hmmm, misscommunicated that I suppose. What i mean is that normally waiting for others to get the map/mod is fast so they are accustomed to waiting a few minutes if it means +1 or 2 player(s).

[1v0ry_k1ng]

Why not just start the game and the guy can join the next match? This is what we did in the dailup days.

you are assuming there is another guy who already has the mod and wants to play.. this is the case 0.00001% of the time. the rest of the time, nobody is hosting, nobody has the mod and nobody wants to make the titanic effort to get it and learn it. this would lead on to me be bullying someone, eg. pintle to download the mod on his steam powered dial up modem because nobody else is around and willing to play other mods and waiting 9000 years for him to download it, during which he cant use his internet for anything else or play another game, I can hardly just cruise off and play somthing else while he is stuck in the lobby playing with his dick and downloading at 35 kbps, we finally both play the mod with little or no expertise at it, get bored of just 1v1ing eachother, fail to find anyone else who wants to play and thus not bother investing any more time getting skill at a game that no-one else will play.

short version of argument: huge file sizes + 99% spring users = no

[Forboding Angel]

Iirc we did a mass poll of the spring community at one point and found that only about 4 or 5% has lolfailconnections.

[knorke]

they did a mass poll about penis size once, everybody had > 40cm

[Dotz]

looking at this thread makes me lol. smoth whines about people whining, and other people take a side like this is a serious debate, and other people miss the point completely and bitch about Modern warfare. While the remaining are posting random shit.

[smoth]

and dotz does a bunch of self glorifying posturing... what have you actually contributed? Nothing, just acting like you are somehow superior to others.

[Dotz]

I'm not acting superior, you just get pissed off too easily.

[MElvinVM]

Why would you care about a game's filesize at all, its about the fun of a game right?

If its a fun game, im sure you dont have to whine for downloading it.
Secondly, my current project is not advanced, nor good looking and is already around the 20-30 megs, but there's a difference between a TA-style mod and a complete new game in my opinion.

[PicassoCT]

You should offer reduzed filesize versions for money. Suddenly - Silence.

[smoth]

Gundam will never be a commercial project if I can help it.

[Pithikos]

Why don't you just keep a torrent up forever and ever and ever and ever so people can download it with their own pace? I think that would solve the whole thing

[smoth]

why a torrent? thing has a legit download?

[Neddie]

Torrents aren't illegitimate. I think the point was that torrents can be paused and resumed reliably.

[Forboding Angel]

So can downloads from servers. Anything downloaded from evo, springinfo, etc can be resumed if the connection is lost. This is not a new feature for servers to have. Even ftp servers generally support resume.