Running Spring without graphics

Running Spring without graphics

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eyu100
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Running Spring without graphics

Post by eyu100 »

Is it possible to run Spring without graphics (just saving a replay) so I don't lag the players in a game? I can watch the replay on my own time since I'm spectating.
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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you can use lowest graphic settings, resize your window and disable sound. this should give a very considerable speed boost. if your cpu still can't handle the game, no dice.
Auswaschbar
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

Post by Auswaschbar »

run minimized => no graphics
eyu100
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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imbaczek wrote:you can use lowest graphic settings, resize your window and disable sound. this should give a very considerable speed boost. if your cpu still can't handle the game, no dice.
What is the min resolution? And is it possible to switch to min settings in the middle of a game?

EDIT: I just got kicked from a game because I was lagging. I was able to get 120 FPS at the start of a test DSD game just by lowering my resolution to 128x80 pixels (without changing other settings). Almost none of the text is readable, but I can see the map and the units (I would be able to watch a real game this way without getting bored). Is there a way to change my fullscreen resolution in the middle of a game? I can't run in windowed mode at all.
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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Auswaschbar wrote:run minimized => no graphics
He didn't stutter...
eyu100
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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Forboding Angel wrote:
Auswaschbar wrote:run minimized => no graphics
He didn't stutter...
I can't run in windowed mode, so I can't minimize without alt-tabbing (and anyway I couldn't watch that way).
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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What happens when you try?
eyu100
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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lurker wrote:What happens when you try?
Spring never stops loading.

edit: the window is never shown
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Can you use the taskbar to minimize it, then? By never shown.. have you done the trick where you initiate a [move], then tap some arrow keys, then move your mouse (or equivalent for any other window manager you may be using)?
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lurker wrote:By never shown.. have you done the trick where you initiate a [move], then tap some arrow keys, then move your mouse (or equivalent for any other window manager you may be using)?
The only thing Spring shows on the taskbar menu is "Close".
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lurker
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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So what's wrong with alt+tab to 'minimize'?
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Post by Caydr »

Really sounds like we should be more worried about the fact that he can't run windowed. How many people start Spring, which defaults to windowed mode, have the same problem he does, and just delete it without trying to troubleshoot?

If a program did that on my computer, I wouldn't bother with it.
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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eyu100 wrote:
lurker wrote:What happens when you try?
Spring never stops loading.

edit: the window is never shown
Check your infolog for springsettings.cfg, find where that file is, delete it. Spring will work windowed again.
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ChaosMonkey
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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if u enjoy just speccing games then dl the replays from http://replays.adune.nl/ and if theres a certain game u wanna spec but cant cos u lag ppl then just ask one of them to upload it for u
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lurker
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CarRepairer wrote:
eyu100 wrote:
lurker wrote:What happens when you try?
Spring never stops loading.

edit: the window is never shown
Check your infolog for springsettings.cfg, find where that file is, delete it. Spring will work windowed again.
Why are you saying this? Tell me the exact reason this happens. If you can't, eyu100, do NOT delete, but rename, and upload both copies if that fixes it.
eyu100
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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lurker wrote:
CarRepairer wrote:
eyu100 wrote: Spring never stops loading.

edit: the window is never shown
Check your infolog for springsettings.cfg, find where that file is, delete it. Spring will work windowed again.
Why are you saying this? Tell me the exact reason this happens. If you can't, eyu100, do NOT delete, but rename, and upload both copies if that fixes it.
I tried it but it didn't work (Spring still started fullscreen. I haven't actually tried running in windowed mode yet.).
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

Post by Smurfwow »

Set your config to windowed mode, and run spring.exe, you should just get a black screen, then press shift+esc to close it. next time you run it, it should be ok.

That has worked for several people with this exact problem. if it breaks again after a while, just repeat the above.
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jK
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

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lurker wrote:So what's wrong with alt+tab to 'minimize'?
SDL doesn't catch alt+tab, so spring still pushes everything through the pipeline, it just isn't rendered.
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

Post by Auswaschbar »

jK wrote:
lurker wrote:So what's wrong with alt+tab to 'minimize'?
SDL doesn't catch alt+tab, so spring still pushes everything through the pipeline, it just isn't rendered.
on windows
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JohannesH
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Re: Running Spring without graphics

Post by JohannesH »

Maximize minimap.
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