Is this an accurate assessment of BA 1vs1s?

Machiosabre · Post by **Machiosabre** » 13 Aug 2007, 12:09

Day wrote:hunter, i dont think you understood my last post... sleksa doesnt really have anything to do with the changes we make to BA its mainly me and noize, and sometimes other peoples suggestions when they come along,just because sleksa is trashtalking on the forums and saying that he represents all of WarC doesnt mean were all a bunch of assholes.
especially after ive said hes not representing us ~_~

well it does make you look that way

anyway who's for banning sleska from the forums? I don't mind swearing at all but I think it would be really really funny.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 13 Aug 2007, 12:10

DONT LISTEN TO HIM SWIFT ;-;

Pxtl · Post by **Pxtl** » 13 Aug 2007, 14:20

hunterw wrote:
Sleksa wrote: NOR SHOULD IT BE SUPCOM T1<T2<T3<EXP UNITS KIND OF A BALANCE,
it is already, t1 land units go obsolete really fast with pitbull/viper spam. if you'd listen to my suggestion and actually comprehended it in your brain then you'd realize, hey that change would make that particular T2 defense exactly as viable against T1 as it is currently in BA5.5, but not as good against T2 units, which is exactly what needs to happen, because T2 is porcy as fuck on team games cause of new pitbull/viper, and guess what pretty much every team game ends up with most ppl goin to T2

it doesnt take much micro to drag a line of that spammable turret, but it sure takes a shitload of micro to kill them off

forks are already underway thankfully

Fun, obscure, often-forgotten fact: the viper was _worse_ than the HLT in OTA. You paid extra in terms of quality in exchange for its pop-up nature.

Buff the HLT back into being the mainline heavy defense unit (instead of being an overpriced joke that is only useful for preventing rockos from sniping your LLTs) and then nerf the pitbull/viper into being special-use units.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 13 Aug 2007, 14:23

Pxtl wrote: Fun, obscure, often-forgotten fact: the viper was _worse_ than the HLT in OTA. You paid extra in terms of quality in exchange for its pop-up nature.

Buff the HLT back into being the mainline heavy defense unit (instead of being an overpriced joke that is only useful for preventing rockos from sniping your LLTs) and then nerf the pitbull/viper into being special-use units.

i dont know about you, but i personally get pretty scared when i see those green lasers.

Pxtl · Post by **Pxtl** » 13 Aug 2007, 14:39

Sleksa wrote:
Pxtl wrote: Fun, obscure, often-forgotten fact: the viper was _worse_ than the HLT in OTA. You paid extra in terms of quality in exchange for its pop-up nature.

Buff the HLT back into being the mainline heavy defense unit (instead of being an overpriced joke that is only useful for preventing rockos from sniping your LLTs) and then nerf the pitbull/viper into being special-use units.

i dont know about you, but i personally get pretty scared when i see those green lasers.

Were they buffed at some point? I haven't used them much in newer versions, and usually when I see the green lasers it's a sign to back off and pound with artillery. I guess I never really much bothered by them since I'm mostly an arty player, not a swarmer. I just remember the last time I used one (back in an early version of BA) I found their performance... underwhelming against L2 units, which imho they should be able to fight.

Rakentaja · Post by **Rakentaja** » 13 Aug 2007, 14:41

Day wrote:hunter, i dont think you understood my last post... sleksa doesnt really have anything to do with the changes we make to BA its mainly me and noize, and sometimes other peoples suggestions when they come along,just because sleksa is trashtalking on the forums and saying that he represents all of WarC doesnt mean were all a bunch of assholes.
especially after ive said hes not representing us ~_~

Well why do you excactly put up with him then? Is his contribution to the collective WarC effort somehow so significant that you can just shrug off all this putrid shit he's spewing on the community

It doesn't improve the general opinion of you guys at the least

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 13 Aug 2007, 14:49

pxtl, please dude... sleksa just made a total ass out of himself all of one page back on exactly this issue... pay him the respect of not putting your foot in your mouth.

Ideology can go to hell, BA is about gameplay, not "should be's".

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 13 Aug 2007, 14:59

an accurate assesment of a BA 1v1 is that video ray made of the super jeffy micro

Foxomaniac · Post by **Foxomaniac** » 13 Aug 2007, 15:05

Oh I love sleksa's all-caps walls of hate ^___________^.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 13 Aug 2007, 15:09

Pxtl wrote:
Were they buffed at some point? I haven't used them much in newer versions, and usually when I see the green lasers it's a sign to back off and pound with artillery. I guess I never really much bothered by them since I'm mostly an arty player, not a swarmer. I just remember the last time I used one (back in an early version of BA) I found their performance... underwhelming against L2 units, which imho they should be able to fight.

gaats are for t1, pitbulls for t2 defence.

2 gaats alone will RAPE every flash-based attack on the area where they both are able to fire against the incoming flash, mainly because of their range and DPS combined, unless you bring something else than flash.

same is with pitbulls/vipers. they will kill off your panthers, but try bringing penetrators while you send some jeffies?

Sure, if you look at the statistics of the gaat it may not look like a good thing to build, but in real games it is something scary ~_~

Well why do you excactly put up with him then? Is his contribution to the collective WarC effort somehow so significant that you can just shrug off all this putrid shit he's spewing on the community

It doesn't improve the general opinion of you guys at the least

first of all, what is the collective warc effort?

secondly, are you and the other suggestion posters so significant that we(SORRY, _I_) cant just shrug off all this putrid shit people(you?) post as "suggestions" on the forums?

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 13 Aug 2007, 17:21

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:an accurate assesment of a BA 1v1 is that video ray made of the super jeffy micro

hilariously he was playing sleksa who went kbots on a completely flat map

Tim-the-maniac · Post by **Tim-the-maniac** » 13 Aug 2007, 17:28

I made a video?

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 13 Aug 2007, 17:30

hunterw wrote:
1v0ry_k1ng wrote:an accurate assesment of a BA 1v1 is that video ray made of the super jeffy micro
hilariously he was playing sleksa who went kbots on a completely flat map

the guy who made the video is rANDY, and the time when that video was taken was when OP storms were found, making start with a kbot lab on maps like tcp viable.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:02

Tim-the-maniac wrote:I made a video?

He's a maniac, a maniac!

Sorry I couldn't keep playing, laddie, I'm at work now...

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:06

neddiedrow wrote:And yes, each clan puts a limit on how many rational members they can have. I thought WarC's was only one, but then Day asked me if I wanted to join. Still not good enough to fulfill my oath and be in a clan, however.

Im thought i was quite rational too ;-;

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:06

Pardon me, you do have a point.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:12

im not rational?

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:21

Nah. It isn't fun to be rational, so don't sweat it.

Sleksa · Post by **Sleksa** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:24

oh ok <3

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 13 Aug 2007, 18:26

You know how I'm a general bore in and out of game? Being rational will do that to you.

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Is this an accurate assessment of BA 1vs1s?