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Gota
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Wikileaks

Post by Gota » 28 Nov 2010, 21:50

cool beans...
funny stuff...
The only trouble is that we don't see any leaks coming from all the baddies and dictatorships and chinas and koreas and irans etc...only leaks are coming from democratic countries with free press...

This is bad since with all the bad stuff going on in democratic countries the things going on in dictatorships are way worse.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by scifi » 28 Nov 2010, 21:54

thats a solid point, though i doubt in dictatorships, there are so many people willing to give away secret information, the risk is higher.

But i do agree, there are more critics being made to democratic regimes, and freedom loving countrys, than actual ditactorships that comit atrocities.

Its a ironic world we live in
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Gota » 28 Nov 2010, 21:55

I wonder who is actually funding wikileaks or do they manage to fund themselves...
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Otherside » 28 Nov 2010, 22:02

Shit is probably going to hit the fan.

Arab Leaders telling the US to Bomb Iran :p
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Gota » 28 Nov 2010, 22:30

Otherside wrote:Shit is probably going to hit the fan.

Arab Leaders telling the US to Bomb Iran :p
Yeah they want it done but they want Israel/usa to do something about it to than condemn their actions...
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Gota » 28 Nov 2010, 22:33

Seems the amount of info is so huge...who is responsible for this leak and how much of it is true and how much is disinfo...

seems there is so much info no single news outlet can mention everything.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by MidKnight » 28 Nov 2010, 22:41

Keep in mind that American news is mainly privately owned, ergo they air the content that'll get them the most views, and, derivatively, cash.

The majority of Americans are more interested in celebrity yearbook photos (2nd spot on Yahoo! Homepage news today) than a decade's worth of leaked US international communications (4th spot).

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by bobthedinosaur » 28 Nov 2010, 23:28

The issue with wikileaks is it is giving opponents to 'the free internet' something to sell to politicians, that is information that can be label as "damaging to national security". Consequently laws that may try to prevent harmful information might help the privatizing and/or regulating movement.

I'm not saying wiki leaks is or is not doing the damage, I'm just stating what the controversy could fuel.
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Re: Wikileaks

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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Wombat » 28 Nov 2010, 23:33

i dont think there is anything new we can know about china/korea/iran/ w/e. only numbers would change slightly probably.

also 'creators' of 'chinawikileaks' would be dead fast anyway
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by bobthedinosaur » 28 Nov 2010, 23:37

Russia was using a wikileak like network to exposure corruption for awhile, but then people started to end up dead. And then the people that questioned how they died, died.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Jazcash » 28 Nov 2010, 23:40

In Soviet Russia, Wiki, leaks you.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Wombat » 28 Nov 2010, 23:56

btw, someone noticed we dont have russian users here ? i think only smoke_th. are we rude ? :(
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Hobo Joe » 29 Nov 2010, 00:34

scifi wrote: But i do agree, there are more critics being made to democratic regimes, and freedom loving countrys, than actual ditactorships that comit atrocities.

Its a ironic world we live in

Because of double standards

derp
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Wombat » 29 Nov 2010, 00:36

i think its becouse nobody can do anything about all these dictatorships. and probably coz ppl got used to it somehow
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Hobo Joe » 29 Nov 2010, 00:41

It's because everybody knows dictatorships are bad, it's the common belief.

In the US however most people don't realize that there's a lot going on behind closed doors, much of it very contrary to what's said in the open. That's why wikileaks exists.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Master-Athmos » 29 Nov 2010, 00:41

We were told to get some info that would "change history". I don't see anything like that from what I've read so far...

I guess we're just going to see some favoritism, embarassing and honest evaluations of certain persons and in general some not really correct deals or other agreements that are a bit questionable in either what they include or how people were "moved" to agree with them...

But oh well there still are lots of documents missing so there's still hope for something groundbreaking to happen...

Concerning the dictatorship argument:
I read some info about China, Pakistan or middle-eastern states so it's not just US related info in those documents...
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by Wombat » 29 Nov 2010, 00:56

indeed, all this baw baw about wikileaks is just marketing so far, we will probably know that palin shared some love with bush in the white house or something.
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by hoijui » 29 Nov 2010, 01:06

.. i still don't get how to use that website.
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org

the info is presented so bad...
it appears to me like primitively compressed, raw data, converted to HTML in a simple way, and.. thats it.
i mean, they do not even offer a search field? or am i missing something?
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Re: Wikileaks

Post by BaNa » 29 Nov 2010, 01:34

yeah i have that too, i love the idea of wikileaks but the format is very daunting for me.
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