server development/documentation / what was done this week
Attending
[V]sheep
BrainDamage
_koshi_
Licho[0K]
[ARP]hoijui_irc
Log [ARP]hoijui_irc: rollin
Agenda Item 1:welcome ------------------------- _koshi_: i'll volunteer for minutes today _koshi_: since i'll prolly need to tweak bot anyhow [ARP]hoijui_irc: thanks
Agenda Item 2:protocol on web ------------------------- _koshi_: http://springrts.com/dl/LobbyProtocol/ now is updated daily from master, thanks to abma _koshi_: nothing more to say about that I guess Licho[0K]: pretty _koshi_: if you get the protocol git and have xsltproc installed you can generate that too btw Licho[0K]: whats the meeting plan? Can i ask about FORCEJOIN/!join progress? _koshi_: after the next one Licho[0K]: its still not on the uberserver .. i guess there is no chance you would implement !join as suggested originally..
Agenda Item 3:CHANGEEMAIL ------------------------- _koshi_: only admin can change other users email? or moderator too? Licho[0K]: moderator too .. seems like common thing people forget/enter faulty stuff _koshi_: moderator should be able too [ARP]hoijui_irc: the protocol doc sais only adin Licho[0K]: and moderators should be reliable [ARP]hoijui_irc: i agree, moderators shoudl be able to do it too _koshi_: alright, i'll fix the wording then [ARP]hoijui_irc: thanks _koshi_: does the email have to be unique, or can multiple account have the same email set? _koshi_: i've skimmed the last minutes, _koshi_: and we agreed multiple accounts with same email to be ok [ARP]hoijui_irc: moderators are called priviledged in SpringLS source (and TASServer), dunnu about ueberserver [ARP]hoijui_irc: ok, thanks [ARP]hoijui_irc: i stumbled over these two things when trying to implement CHANGEEMAIL [ARP]hoijui_irc: now should be doable _koshi_: alright Licho[0K]: tbh i woul devne request unique email and registration through mail but thats different topic Licho[0K]: to reduce smurfing a bit [V]sheep: would need to accomodate for bots _koshi_: I don't have much hope that the unique requirement would actually dent smurfing [V]sheep: if you allow single email-multiple account, at least you can quickly figure out farmers/smurfs [V]sheep: unless they take care _koshi_: it's a trap! Licho[0K]: if its voluntary email .. i dunno if they enter it [V]sheep: oh true Licho[0K]: i use simple 1234 password for everything, including all autohosts and my licho account Licho[0K]: and it works [V]sheep: will be nice in the minutes :)
Agenda Item 4:FORCEJOIN/!join progress ------------------------- [ARP]hoijui_irc: well.. FORCEJOIN is still implemented in SringLS, and i guess nobody really knows about ueberserver _koshi_: unless aegis has coded in secret, he has as far as i can see did nothing towards any of the changes discussed in the last meetings [ARP]hoijui_irc: ok _koshi_: and no, I don't want to implemented !join. Even less since I've implemented FORCEJOIN Licho[0K]: i checked uberserver, its not there _koshi_: anything else on this item? [V]sheep: ... no it seems BrainDamage: maybe set a time, and start testing springls in the meantime? BrainDamage: if no activity from aegis is reported until then, consider switching BrainDamage: this way everyone would be happy [ARP]hoijui_irc: yeah.. starting to test springls is a good aproach [ARP]hoijui_irc: we either end up with two valid servers software then, or at least one _koshi_: maybe you can coordinate some focused testing later this week? _koshi_: it's prolly better if you're present for that Licho[0K]: i would recommend trying to patch uberserver instead Licho[0K]: its not big piece of code [ARP]hoijui_irc: yeah true [ARP]hoijui_irc: this week is not good though [ARP]hoijui_irc: if you replace instead with in addition to, i agree [ARP]hoijui_irc: and if you find someone :D [ARP]hoijui_irc: i will nto do that _koshi_: well, whenever floats your boat wrt testing then hoijui. We'll table discussing results here whenever we get some [ARP]hoijui_irc: ook [ARP]hoijui_irc: yeah, next week should be ok _koshi_: anything else? [ARP]hoijui_irc: not for me
Agenda Item 5:SAYBATTLEPRIVATE & SAYBATTLEPRIVATEEX proposal ------------------------- BrainDamage: just so that licho gets the forcejoin he wants: is anyone here volunteering to add to uberserver? how long should be wait more for a reponse from aegis? BrainDamage: ops, a bit late _koshi_: I'm not volunteering _koshi_: and I don't really want to set an ultimatum [ARP]hoijui_irc: same [V]sheep: i'm here... nothing to say on the subject [V]sheep: and not volunteering Licho[0K]: its not so easy because it needs hack Licho[0K]: i mean forgemsg Licho[0K]: and compat flag [ARP]hoijui_irc: i think the hack can be copied from Springls [ARP]hoijui_irc: its just 2 or 3 lines in java [ARP]hoijui_irc: so must be 1/3 line in python _koshi_: next? BrainDamage: i guess
Agenda Item 6:SAYBATTLEPRIVATE & SAYBATTLEPRIVATEEX proposal ------------------------- _koshi_: from last conclusions: _koshi_: Edit: oh and SAYPRIVATEBATTLE(EX) wasn't accepted as is, but licho/aegis will prepare a new draft for a future meeting _koshi_: did that happen? Licho[0K]: what do you mean Licho[0K]: it is already in uberserver Licho[0K]: springie and spads are using it Licho[0K]: oh you mean documenting it _koshi_: i mean a draft for inclusion into the protocol, yes _koshi_: that's a 'no' then? so next item? [ARP]hoijui_irc: jo
Agenda Item 7:remaining uberserver commands ------------------------- _koshi_: remaining in the sense that they're not documented _koshi_: of the three items listed: _koshi_: OPENBATTLEEX family of commands _koshi_: EXIT https://github.com/spring/LobbyProtocol/issues/2 _koshi_: GETINGAMETIME _koshi_: only GETINGAMETIME is also in springLS, correct? _koshi_: src/main/java/com/springrts/springls/commands/impl/GetInGameTimeCommandProcessor.java _koshi_: 32:@SupportedCommand("GETINGAMETIME") [ARP]hoijui_irc: mm ok [ARP]hoijui_irc: i will document that one then _koshi_: do you differentiate voluntary and aborted connections in any way? _koshi_: since that's what's given as the reason for EXIT [ARP]hoijui_irc: me? [ARP]hoijui_irc: i have no idea .. :D Licho[0K]: i gtg, bye! [ARP]hoijui_irc: bye [ARP]hoijui_irc: i will have to check that one _koshi_: seems sensible to have either way imo _koshi_: OPENBATTLEEX family of commands _koshi_: will have to be postponed again since no one but aegis and licho is in the know for those [ARP]hoijui_irc: i dont care muhc for exit or not, would implement if it kind of makes sense _koshi_: actually, it's sensible to send always for clients, if it's sensible for the server to actually handle depends very much on your imp [ARP]hoijui_irc: i guess i can also document EXIT then _koshi_: ie we can add that to protocol, so everybody would send it always _koshi_: and if it makes sense you handle it _koshi_: else you don't [ARP]hoijui_irc: ok [ARP]hoijui_irc: sounds good _koshi_: since it cannot have any reply either way _koshi_: alrighty _koshi_: the "more?" part is a question for aegis too i guess
Agenda Item 8:server development/documentation / what was done this week ------------------------- _koshi_: anything to add to that [ARP]hoijui_irc? [V]sheep: no _koshi_: in that case imo we're thru with what we can discuss tonight and I congratulate us all to a meeting in < 80 minutes
Summary
http://springrts.com/dl/LobbyProtocol/ now is updated daily from master, thanks to abma
koshi will change the CHANGEEMAIL documentation to include moderators as allowed to change a user's address
FORCEJOIN is implemented in SpringLS, no progress in uberserver
hoijui will organize focused springLS testing at his opportunity
aegis/Licho did not draft SAYBATTLEPRIVATE[EX] protocol additions, this is tabled again
GETINGAMETIME and EXIT will be added to protocol
no draft/discussion of OPENBATTLEEX family of commands yet
Edit: manually fixed attending list
Last edited by koshi on 17 Apr 2012, 13:05, edited 1 time in total.
yeah, Licho had to leave before the end and the bot took attendance at meeting's end. Nightwatch wasn't on its ignore list yet. Should've noted that everything but the Summary is auto generated. Both issues are now fixed, but that does only help future meetings.
So will you continue holding meetings during working hours in the United States or is there sort of compromise we could come to? Because I am bored and I can raise a stink in all these threads.
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