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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 16:14 

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Hello everybody, i know people that works for EA company.
He told me he can help spring more popular but, EA does not get a benefit with this, they also dont want is popularize a free game with models rights from other or old games like TA.
He saw the models in there and dislike the copyright stuff


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 17:02 
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Spring is an engine.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 17:09 
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Keep up the good work! I am glad your approach has disinterested EA in spring.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 17:28 
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you spelled BA wrong.
edit:
appearently the thread is serious.
good luck.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 19:14 
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Senna wrote:
He saw the models in there and dislike the copyright stuff
What about the non-copyrighted models? Did you show them to him?


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 19:22 
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Corporations exist for the net gain of the share holders
Corporations prioritize profit over ethics or humanity
EA is a corporation
EA will only care about spring if it can make money off of it.
EA has a long track record of buying up IPs and development
EA then crushes that team and sucks the IP dry
EA then moves on to the next vic.. opportunity.

IF EA had any interest in spring or her projects you can be assured it would be interested in maximizing profit it can get from said interest.

I think that it's history is very clear and I think it is a deal with the devil to get in bed with EA.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 19:55 
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She?! I'll have you know spring is a man with ungainly breasts


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 19:59 
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Mother with children. Typically she is a term used.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 20:14 

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smoth wrote:
Corporations exist for the net gain of the share holders
Corporations prioritize profit over ethics or humanity
EA is a corporation
EA will only care about spring if it can make money off of it.
EA has a long track record of buying up IPs and development
EA then crushes that team and sucks the IP dry
EA then moves on to the next vic.. opportunity.

IF EA had any interest in spring or her projects you can be assured it would be interested in maximizing profit it can get from said interest.

I think that it's history is very clear and I think it is a deal with the devil to get in bed with EA.


Well if EA publics only the name is all i want, more people will know about this engine, we will get a boost of players then.

look what ISI did with rfactor, see before may 2009 and after july 2009
when EA make public rfactor


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 20:20 
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smoth wrote:
a deal with the devil


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 22:08 
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hm this does sound like a deal with the devil.

If it was Paradox, or Kerberus productions, or even stardock, I would trust them.
They are the guys who apologize, in a forum post, and keep developing a game for years, with good support.

But EA i dont know man, depends.... after westwood studios got bougth , i dunno.

That would mean turning Spring into a comercial title, using its free open source engine, witch wouldnt be free anymore. Its an idea for the devs, its theyr engine, so cant give a sound opinion on the matter................


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 22:37 
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spring and the engine is one and the same thing.
spring is GPL 2+, which means, they can not make it non-OpenSource without breaking the law. spring is not property of the devs. it is OpenSource -> belongs to everyone.

yeah, yeah, there are loopholes maybe, and i did trivialization, which law? ... bla bla


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011, 23:09 
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When will people realise that Spring just isn't ready for promotion yet? It's been said countless times. Sell an unfinished product and people don't like it, nothing is going to make them want to come back again when it is finished.

First impressions are important because they decide whether there's going to be a second impression or not.


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 05:38 
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Spring itself is quite excellent already.

The things that aren't up to par yet are the lobbies (needs proper lua lobby), and perhaps the games.

But several of the games are already commercial quality (Example: zk (needs some smoothing of the rough edges, but that would take all of an hour)).

What senna wants is more players for BA, in which case.... Dude, why would you even bother?


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 08:54 
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How do you clean up ZK in an hour? I am interested in what you think is rough that can be fixed that quickly.


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 10:17 
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Just little things, like the first screen for comm selection is really ugly (maybe it's been replaced by now?)

Little things like that. UI should be set up for new users properly so that they don't have to touch it. Nothing that is particularly tough or even that huge of a deal but just counts towards impressions.


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 10:28 
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That is already the case. Well, except for hotkeys but that's because Licho says gesture menu = hotkeys.


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 11:11 
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zero-K has a SVN to discuss what needs to be improved. Or just commit the changes. In this thread, it is just going nowhere.
Same with the "EA=evil" thing, if somebody wants his spring game on origin then that is his decision.

What matters are questions like:
zwzsg wrote:
Senna wrote:
He saw the models in there and dislike the copyright stuff
What about the non-copyrighted models? Did you show them to him?


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 11:47 

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I really don't like EA, I forget the reasons now but... yeah.
EA, eww.

if you guys wait till spring is perfect before trying to publicise it then everyone is going to loose (or continue to loose) interist in it, and it wont go anywhere.
currently BA, ZK, S44, TechAnni and probibly some others are in more than playable state.
publicise. get more players, with more players you'll get more devs artists, modders, which will pump more life into what apears to me to be a slowly dieing game.

if you really think we need to fix some things first here's my shortlist:
-Stability (gone backwards a little with the latest release, but that's not really un-expected).
-spring lobby rejoin game (won't allow you because you're allready in game).
-spring lobby map reaload.


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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2011, 11:56 
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se5a wrote:
I really don't like EA, I forget the reasons now but... yeah.
EA, eww.

if you guys wait till spring is perfect before trying to publicise it then everyone is going to loose (or continue to loose) interist in it, and it wont go anywhere.
currently BA, ZK, S44, TechAnni and probibly some others are in more than playable state.
publicise. get more players, with more players you'll get more devs artists, modders, which will pump more life into what apears to me to be a slowly dieing game.


its bad to advertise BA (TA?), because of the models taken from TA...for the others +1 for promoting :)
i already tried that a bit and added some games to some sites...

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if you really think we need to fix some things first here's my shortlist:
-Stability (gone backwards a little with the latest release, but that's not really un-expected).
-spring lobby rejoin game (won't allow you because you're allready in game).
-spring lobby map reaload.


should be better/fixed in next release... testers for development versions are always welcome! :)


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