Which means a describe you favorite sandwich thread would be more direct.

reminded me of something smoth wrote in another thread:
seems relevant too.

very relevant

I use almost the default Zero-K UI, only a few changes which are all done through the ingame menu.

I'm slowly moving in this direction. I've got to the point where ZK has menu options for presetting fire, move and skirmish AI state.

I think the biggest issue in spring currently is the pathing. The old pathing did 2 things well:

• Units would never slowdown when turning
• Not slow the game down dramatically

When is the next engine version? That stuff was fixed there when I last checked.

Spring has a pretty steep learning curve. We dont realize it, but for a nub this is the most frustrating game ever. If you know cc and join, you get three or four units built, and then comes the flood... it doesent even feel bad, it just feels, like beeing swept away by a force of nature... people tend to work on there skills when they get the chance, but in spring, a beginner doesent get that chance.

Thats one of the biggest flaws of rts, in comparison with other games. Nearly everybody can get into a quicktime-fps, coverbased something and get some small successes before the auto-reset-to-moron-level enemys paint a map of bullethole-county on your skin.

spring wins everytime, because you can draw on the map and put pointers with rude messages all over your allies base

...and if you're about to lose you can make your opponents lag out with the spam-smileys widget