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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 18:02 
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I CAN connect pintle with [RoX]pintle, thats not the point.

  • As the founder I would like to make sure that people with op are responsible
  • Responsible people do not demand powers and act like petulant spoilt children
  • I made nice clear instructions, post your lobby user name. If nobody objects and you don't have a bad history you get op status.
  • I expected people to respond by simply saying their lobby names, nice and easy. After all I made clear what to do, and we all know each other.
  • If you cant be arsed to simply follow the instruction of posting your main username, how can you be expected to moderate #xta?
  • Procedure is in place because I might as well give the reigns to former Smug members and have them change the topic to something lurid about breasts and goats if there isnt any.
  • As I said, the ops were all removed because theres was little or no evidence as to who was still present, who had moved on to other usernames, some had multiple accounts listed, and who was actually capable of using op status rather than having it as a trophy on their mantlepiece
  • People who never log on, or havent or rarely do ( e.g. barto ) shouldn't have operator status as it is a security risk amongst other reasons. Requiring people to post their lobby name ensures that they are enfact here, and they do enfact give a damn
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 18:52 
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I object!
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 18:59 

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I object to your objection!

Wait, what are you objecting to?
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 19:01 
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AF, just give the XTA clans back their op power, please- we're the only people who really use the channel so it makes sense that we are able to moderate it.

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People who never log on, or havent or rarely do ( e.g. barto ) shouldn't have operator status as it is a security risk amongst other reasons. Requiring people to post their lobby name ensures that they are enfact here, and they do enfact give a damn


what? people who rarely log on, but are nevertheless proven to be mature community leaders should most certainly keep their operator status- not only because should they come online they can resume their responsibilities or set a relevant channel topic, but because they have given so much to the mod over the years and deserve the respect and authority. Channel op in XTA is not a badge of dedication, it is an acknowledgment that you are a sufficiently prominent member of the community to set channel topics and mute noobs who spam goatporn.

what *exactly* was wrong with the existing op list?
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 19:05 

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I think I had operator status by renaming to barto's old name...
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 19:17 
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babbles wrote:
I think I had operator status by renaming to barto's old name...


Which goes to prove the point.

Anybody who is 'prominent' has the capacity to reply. Non-prominent players would never see or notice the removal or the thread.
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 19:41 

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AF wrote:
babbles wrote:
I think I had operator status by renaming to barto's old name...


Which goes to prove the point.

Anybody who is 'prominent' has the capacity to reply. Non-prominent players would never see or notice the removal or the thread.


Yeah, I think it also ended up with me taking control of #nemesis channel, a number of ops in channels such as #pink etc and at one stage CoX had BetaLord account. All fixed now though...
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2010, 21:53 
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babbles wrote:
AF wrote:
babbles wrote:
I think I had operator status by renaming to barto's old name...


Which goes to prove the point.

Anybody who is 'prominent' has the capacity to reply. Non-prominent players would never see or notice the removal or the thread.


Yeah, I think it also ended up with me taking control of #nemesis channel, a number of ops in channels such as #pink etc and at one stage CoX had BetaLord account. All fixed now though...


dosnt this just prove you need to go outside more? :-)
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 13:43 

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So how did Peet get server admin again....?

Don't pretend this is fort Knox AF.

In the past 5 years how many times has somebody abused their OP in #XTA to wreak havoc an destroy valuable assets?

I appreciate you are putting some time into making XTA viable and community rooted again, but man, the tone and approach you have taken here, particular inferring I am a spoilt child leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Patronising people = bad.

People such as Myg, Barto, TMO and similar long standing XTA community pillars should be given OP no question imo, regardless of their current activity. 3 "prominent" players (WAY WAY more prominent than the "pro player" AF) who don't even check the forum regularly when they are playing daily.
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 14:18 
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pintle wrote:
So how did Peet get server admin again....?
Didn't you know? According to AF popular opinion it was solely achieved through extortion.


....Wait how is this relevant?
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 14:27 

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Im just lolling at spring's general level of security, and the ABSOLUTE IMPORTANCE of us maintaining our impenetrable digital fortress!
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 15:10 
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hmmm...Isn't the XTA channel almost always very quiet...anyone hardly ever chats in it...If i were the one deciding the fate of the OP list in the XTA channel,based on the experience of being in that channel, I wouldn't even assign ops except the global ones.

I guess there are some extreme left atheist hackers I didn't know about that are trying to bring the channel down.
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 15:43 

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BA's channel was left unchecked. Now look what happened to BA, noobs run amok.
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 15:59 
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The likes of barto and Myg are to be given op status on sight no questions asked. Barto has a habit of discarding accounts when they reach a certain rank and starting afresh, and I haven't seen them online in such a long time..

Rather than complaining, start nominating, complaining and arguing is doing exactly what your saying is bad all on its own, regardless of any procedures I put in place and their disadvantages. The only person that springs to mind who hasn't got op status who should is Mighty, but he has expressed no desire thus far.

Perhaps I should deop everybody and have only myself and a modified cookiebot moderate the channel based on a league of cookie counts?
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 16:43 

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AF wrote:
Perhaps I should deop everybody and have only myself and a modified cookiebot moderate the channel based on a league of cookie counts?


Or maybe the people who have actually played the game extensively for YEARS should have the channel and you should stop furiously pumping your e-peen in our face?
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 18:18 
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Did you not get my hint that your posts are causing as much damage as you say mine have if not more? Really, they serve no point other than to flame and cause discontent in the name of making me do something I wont do.

All you have to do is post your lobby name, if op status is a mark of longterm veterancy then either we need to make sure the veterans make themselves known and which username to op, or, the aspiration to become more popular is incompatible. If an XTA player is not a veteran, then the XTA players will speak out.

You posted your lobbyname you already have op status as does everybody else, and the majority of hassle is not because of my procedure which is barely even justifiable as one, but because of people like you resisting.

Since you're not going to take the hint, and your not going to back down, I can only ask that you no longer post in this thread until you have lobby names to suggest ( it would have been so much easier to just list the usernames than spend all that time with pointless arguing, after all do you really need us to tell you the usernames of the veteran XTA players? I know them, but that's not my call for reasons said above )
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 18:23 
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AF wrote:
Perhaps I should deop everybody and have only myself and a modified cookiebot moderate the channel based on a league of cookie counts?

I'm sure that would work every bit as well as your other moderation-related bot endavours. Good idea, go for it!
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 18:26 
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Oh they worked fine until I gave you and tsuyosa bot op privilleges. A single bot for a single channel works fine
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 19:35 
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AF wrote:
Oh they worked fine until I gave you and tsuyosa bot op privilleges. A single bot for a single channel works fine


Is this a joke?
Were you on drugs?Why would anyone give Tsuyosa op powehez?This decision alone makes me question your ability to do moderation related work.
You should reconsider your actions.It would be a shame if i was forced to take measures.
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 Post subject: Re: #xta channel Op list
PostPosted: 06 Aug 2010, 19:39 
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Go back to your own subforum!
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