After a good discussion with Jools, I am thinking that disabling user lua may be beneficial to XTA gameplay. Namely, this will eliminate auto-micro, unit marking, and ghosted units. There is a very large amount of functionality in the code right now that makes these widgets obsolete:

DPS
XP icons
Group labels
Commander Name Tags
point tracker
message separator
all ui widgets
minimap widgets
formations
waypoint dragging
show all commands
a bunch of other ones i am forgetting

but i like my buggy commander health display thing
gaaaaaaaaay.

well is it just exta ui u want? i am thinking of supporting UI modules, for UI related tasks. Also extra shaders

EDIT: Oh yeah the edges of the screen flash red when your com is under attack. Is this not satisfying enough?

i know they flash because it was my idea
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well, as long as it is not supercomplicated to set up and doesnt eat fps for a very simpel effect, i dont mind if you force a specific gui.
just not something like chili or whatever its called...

trust me, there is no fps hit (or slight fps hit if you turn on pretty blur effects in options), and it looks like sex. Im working making the unit pics look like sex to match, thats the biggest ugly right now.

I support the prevetion of other people's lua.

Damn Shift's Comm nap warning! lua spamming my screen every second it sees the same atlas, damn it to hell!

good
cox clan seem to be generally in favor, jools likes the idea too.

Yes. Userside widgets are gay

Yes, I'm in favour of restricting some widgets in practice, although in theory I tend to like to trust our users and let them make the smart choice for what they think makes the game fair and fun, and I think it would be better in principle to convince people not to use certain widgets than to force them not to. I also said I didn't think my view is in majority, people like automation.

But consider this point: with less automation, trees and obstacles become more important, since you actually have to see the unit (that's hiding there) with your own eyes. And that opens up for a more creative game play, which I think is good.

-1, there should be easy way to bypass that function, i had long and good conversations with my nearly clanmate BD and in #CA, all told me thats easy to trick the system and that would lead to an unfair situation (ppl with luas and ppl with xta-luas) - its a lost war

you cant trick my system. gg

Give everyone maphack then

maphacks dont have to do with lua.


This is about increasing the fun spirit in xta. If you use hacks your just not going to have as much fun.

Anyone using cheating lua would be seen a mile off. And we would point at them and call them rude names.

No.

apsiks cloak com when gunships or atlas come within 600 of com widget was pretty sweet

nearly clan mate? are you considering leaving cow or something?

btw sheek, thanks for the justification. really helping the discussion.

I think SA had outside widgets disabled, i could make it disable widgets if enabled, but off by default, so you can turn it on and disable additional widgets for serious battles or ladder games <_<

why?

I see general support. Also com cloaking sounds nice but ultimately that is what I am fighting here, unit automation for noobs.

But modoption is a good idea. Just that people's gui lua will screw up my nice ui.

I think user widgets off should be the default. So that you play the same way in random games and serious games, but theres still the option to play unit automation games if someone really wants it.

Iirc SA has that option too.