spicing up economy

pheldens · Post by **pheldens** » 08 Sep 2006, 17:31

I find the economy in spring, XTA in particular, a little too simplistic. Especially after you build fusionplants, when you can ditch mining alltogether. AA has tuned the yield of those down considerably which is good. It would be nice if there was atleast third major factor besides power and metal though.

Maybe a layer (in the form of a building) of nanomachines, that generate nano particles the construction units can use in turn.

And maybe an added raw material, a non metal, like carbon.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 08 Sep 2006, 17:41

Um, ok, I'll be nice...

Hey... that's a great idea. About 1000000 people have already expressed about 100 new versions of this idea. Welcome to the Spring Forums

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 08 Sep 2006, 18:01

Welcome to your first introcution to the Monthly Topic Rotation, up until now this topic wasn't in there, but I'm adding it now.

First of all, this is a good idea, it's just that it's been posted about and expressed before... marking something as an MTR doesn't mean it's a bad idea or that you can't discuss it or post topics about it... it just is a handy way of keeping track of subjects that come up freaquently so newbs don't re-hash stuff that's already been said and claim it as a new idea... because that's annoying.

pheldens · Post by **pheldens** » 08 Sep 2006, 19:14

Yeah I know what you mean, though it's not meant as a complaint, or an 'implement this!', but merely a brainstorm dump I wanted to share in a moment of positivism now gone.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 08 Sep 2006, 19:44

sorry to kill your buzz then, feel free to get excited and learn to ignore us cinics.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 08 Sep 2006, 20:43

Another resource could be nice, but it would involve redoing each and every map, not to mention the mod rebalancing that would be necessary...

Crampman · Post by **Crampman** » 08 Sep 2006, 22:09

The better idea that has been suggested is to allow modders to define their own ressources systems : number of ressources, names, colours, tags...etc.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 08 Sep 2006, 22:23

I don't see how that would work without making a version of every map for each mod...

Crampman · Post by **Crampman** » 08 Sep 2006, 22:35

Basically the best way to keep actuel maps is just to add new ressources.
So we can still use the metal/energy maps features, and add new building or such thing to generate new ressources.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 08 Sep 2006, 23:14

Well... you have 5 forms of resource on each map,

ground metal, solar, geothermal, tidel, and wind... you just have to make your new resource take advantage of a subset of features (or just get made by creating special buildings)... eventually having resources come from new customer sources put into the map by the mapper and having special mod specific maps would be available too, but the basic functionality wouldn't require it.

esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 09 Sep 2006, 00:11

yeah, metal is the only one that is hardcoded "style" (metalmap usage), in that you can only have 1 set of a metal resource (because older maps wouldn't have a second/third/xxx metalmap)... ofc, you could have another one like rock for geoplants, but not every map has geos so you shouldn't do something like that (IMO)

it would be best if we could specify the number of resources, then the names of each resource, the color of the bars, and the one that uses the metal map...

e: Added to MTR

heh, its at the top, and it has 6(!) threads

e2: sue me, sidbadEV did that...

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 09 Sep 2006, 00:19

yeah... I did that 'cause I'm amazing.

basically you just added the same topic to the list I just made to contain the list... I think that's a new low of lameness

esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 09 Sep 2006, 00:50

what? i just checked, saw it wasn't added, which i thought was odd because someone said that it was on there... so i added it... what are you trying to say?

e: just checked histroy, sorry...

I didn't know you added the whole entire section, I expected a new section to be on the bottom

Warlord Zsinj · Post by **Warlord Zsinj** » 09 Sep 2006, 12:14

I don't really see how placing a limited resource model in the same environment as an infinite resource model would be effective. Particularly when the inifinite model is far superior.

If things are stagnating in the lategame, then it is the fault of the mod's balancing and flow, rather then the game itself.

I know SWS definitely chokes up in the late game, particularly on the extremely large/heavy metal maps which are popular with most Spring players. We're trying to keep the dynamic flowing throughout the game, but it's certainly difficult.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 09 Sep 2006, 15:42

infinite resource models.. are not inherently better than finite ones.. its a matter of preference and balance...

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spicing up economy

spicing up economy