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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 04:22 
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Now released! A remake of Baracus's map Hotlips001. New changes include:
    -New filtered and natural looking 16-bit heightmap
    -Tweaks to height(map) for increased vehicle playability
    -New desert texture
    -Trees and rocks
    -SSMF
    -Start positions
    -Better bumpwater settings

Thanks to:

Baracus: Original Hotlips001
Agorm, Smoth, Comp1337: Features
Funkencool, Beherith: Borrowed bumpwater settings from Trefoil and Mercury
Beherith, Silentwings, Funkencool, and others: Assistance and troubleshooting

Made with World Machine, GIMP, Notepad++

EDIT: V2


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 08:26 
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Absolutely stunning work!
What did you use to make the texture?


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 11:57 
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This is fucking excellent!

You sir, win 1 free spring.


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 12:42 
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I would use some high frequency basic perlin displacement on impassable slopes to break up the flat/uninteresting edges.
A great tool in WM is making a lightmap of the full scale heightmap, then overlaying it in photoshop on the texture. It does require that you reduce the amount of lightbake on the texture before, so that the added effect of 2 lightbakes doesnt become too overpowering.


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 19:52 
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reminds me of james realm in sacrifice


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 19:53 
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I like the look of this. My only criticism is that the sky doesn't match the terrain, it's simply not bright enough considering the reflections int he water and the luminosity of parts of the terrain


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 23:33 
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Beherith wrote:
Absolutely stunning work!
What did you use to make the texture?


About 98% World Machine, and 2% GIMP, thanks. It's basicly a big modifcation of the convexity selector example + basic texturing macro.

Beherith wrote:
I would use some high frequency basic perlin displacement on impassable slopes to break up the flat/uninteresting edges.
A great tool in WM is making a lightmap of the full scale heightmap, then overlaying it in photoshop on the texture. It does require that you reduce the amount of lightbake on the texture before, so that the added effect of 2 lightbakes doesnt become too overpowering.


That's what you suggested in my other thread, right? I tried playing around with it but had troubles with passability and general uglyness, but I was applying it universally and not just on steep slopes. I have it saved as a macro so perhaps I can try to work something out with it.

I'm pretty much doing the lightmap work already, just within world machine using combine and then bias/gain to compensate for lighting.

AF wrote:
I like the look of this. My only criticism is that the sky doesn't match the terrain, it's simply not bright enough considering the reflections int he water and the luminosity of parts of the terrain


Good point actually, I'll adjust the sky color. Thanks


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PostPosted: 20 Sep 2012, 23:38 
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the default bump water settings are bad. Looks like white froth, always use your own settings.


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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2012, 04:50 

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Looks very nice, gj.


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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2012, 05:48 
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I like those penis hills.


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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2012, 07:57 

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PepeAmpere wrote:
I like those penis hills.

Every respectable map has at least one of those.


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PostPosted: 21 Sep 2012, 09:08 
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When i deved mountains for another game once, the same thing comes up. The truth is, humans see faces, genitalia everywhere. No point filtering the sky,the ground, the water. Cause even if you do, they gonna draw on it, while they screw. Im pretty sure, if in those caves were they drew the magic bufallee in the stone ages,you would turn the cam around to the eternal background, this is what you see.

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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2012, 23:15 
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Thanks all, expect a release in a few more days. I just moved into a new apartment that was supposed to have internet by now but thanks to one particularly incompetent telus technician doesn't yet.


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PostPosted: 26 Sep 2012, 19:19 
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Updated post with new screenshots and download link. [/shamelessdoublepost]


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PostPosted: 26 Sep 2012, 21:55 
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This looks great! The screenshot of the dried-up plants sticking out of the edges of the desert puddle made me drool a little. One visual complaint: having a cracked texture underneath the water looks really odd to me. I thought cracked mud was meant to signify, you know, something really dry that gets wet occasionally.

edit: and as we all know, maps take place in the eternal


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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2012, 05:26 
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You sir are awsome :D

I saw this map being played a couple of times on zero-K, so I was thinking putting in a better texture too. But I couldnt have done such a great job as you did, thank you.

Peace out, Bara


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PostPosted: 28 Oct 2012, 12:16 
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PepeAmpere wrote:
I like those penis hills.


After few plays on this map i have to say it has funny bot fights on penis hills (using radar cover), but i started to hate to see so many penises at one place so many times a day.. and of course - the vagina lake...

i suggest to split playing game and watching porn


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PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 14:11 
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Updated to V2. Has some pretty significant performance optimizations for ssmf like conversion to .dds textures and rescaling to a lower res. Also new detailtex for rock, visual tweaks to ssmf, and removed waterplanecolor tag.

SpringFiles Link:http://springfiles.com/spring/spring-maps/hotlips-redux

EDIT: I was also going to try releasing a dry version, but bumpwater broke anytime I dropped the waterlevel below ground. Seems to be a compiling issue since I can drop the smf/smt files into blueprint with default settings and still have it crash anytime I try to set bumpwater. Any ideas?


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PostPosted: 30 Jan 2013, 14:43 
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You shouldnt be setting to bumpwater if there is no water on the map. The key here is NOT setting waterplanecolor. If you dont have waterplanecolor, there is no waterplane. You can also try to send commands to force 'water 0'

How much did the dds rescale reduce vram footprint/gpu use?


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