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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 23:35 
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[15:22:28] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Licho, nightwatch is flooding channels.
[15:22:37] <Licho> which channels?
[15:22:46] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> all of the ones it has joined
[15:22:57] <Licho> nightwatch dev- cant do much about it
[15:23:02] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> apparently not this one tho
[15:23:03] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> hmm
[15:23:04] <Licho> its being kicked and it auto rejoins
[15:23:08] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> #evolution
[15:23:20] <Licho> its me debugging stuff
[15:23:24] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> chDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:12] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:22] ** NightwatchDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:22] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:32] ** NightwatchDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:33] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:42] ** NightwatchDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:43] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:52] ** NightwatchDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:22:52] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:23:02] ** NightwatchDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:23:03] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:23:12] ** NightwatchDev joined the channel.
[15:23:25] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> [15:23:13] ** NightwatchDev left the channel( Kicked for flooding ).
[15:23:26] <Licho> and uberserver kicking it
[15:23:34] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> That's nice, but it';s been doing it for a loooong time
[15:23:40] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> and makes channel chat impossible
[15:23:43] <Licho> yeah im devving for loong time
[15:23:45] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> please fix your bot.
[15:23:52] <Licho> ask aegis to disable check for nightwatchdev too
[15:23:59] <Licho> nothing wrong with the bot
[15:24:05] <Licho> its exact clone of nightwatch itself
[15:24:16] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Perhaps you should be the one to ask aegis
[15:24:24] <Licho> i dont care about the spam
[15:24:33] <Licho> filter out the join messages
[15:24:34] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> well it's not about you is it?
[15:24:41] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> ffs
[15:25:01] <Licho> it only joins it because someone subscribed the channel
[15:25:05] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Perhaps you should do the responsible thing
[15:25:09] <Licho> aegis is unlikely to do anything about it
[15:25:19] <Licho> you mean hack uberserver ?
[15:25:24] <[LCC]jK> better make a request to not let rejoin kicked accounts for 30sec
[15:25:27] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> No, I mean take care of the problem
[15:25:39] <Licho> i care about bazilion things
[15:25:43] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> you are causing problems for everyone
[15:25:45] <Licho> some join spam is not worth fixing
[15:25:49] <Licho> just for you
[15:25:54] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> and then stating that you don't give a dman about anyone else
[15:25:54] <Licho> other lobbies have filters
[15:26:11] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> not all players know how to use them
[15:26:15] <[LCC]jK> it's you bot causing spam, traffic & annoyance
[15:26:20] <[LCC]jK> *your
[15:26:26] <Licho> ok i will turn it off
[15:26:36] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> ffs
[15:27:03] <Licho> oh wait i cannot
[15:27:04] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> how much of a prick can you be dude? Seriously? Remind me to ignore you whenever something I do causes problems for you
[15:27:11] <Licho> i cannot code pw without nightwatch dev
[15:27:22] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Except, in this case, you're causing problems for everyone in those channels
[15:27:26] <Licho> best to hack uberserver
[15:27:35] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> No, BEST FOR YOU TO FIX YOUR DHIT
[15:27:41] <Licho> its impossible to fix
[15:27:41] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> jesus christ
[15:27:46] <Licho> it has to do high traffic things
[15:27:49] <Licho> thats what it does
[15:27:58] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Well then, I suggest you stop doing what you are doing until you can fix it
[15:28:09] <Licho> there is nothing to fix on my side
[15:28:20] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Obviously your side is causing the issue
[15:28:31] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> perhaps you should put in a request to accomodate what you are trying to do
[15:28:49] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> IN the meantime, you are screwing over everyone in those channels
[15:29:03] <Licho> not over zkl users for sure
[15:29:11] <Licho> it only joins your channel because you use its services
[15:29:17] <Licho> unsubscribe and it wont join it
[15:29:26] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> well not everyone is using zkl are they?
[15:29:37] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> And what services of it do I use?
[15:29:39] <Licho> in the channels where it joins likely are
[15:29:44] <Licho> !subscribe
[15:29:52] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> I have never asked for nightwatch
[15:29:53] <Licho> either you or someone in that channel
[15:29:58] <Licho> hmm
[15:30:02] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> all it does is spam and cause trouble
[15:30:16] <Licho> option is to make it admin
[15:30:28] <Licho> then it will get higher limit
[15:30:33] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> YOu are sidestepping the fact that this is YOUR probelm
[15:30:34] <Licho> but its dangerous
[15:30:36] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> you are causing it
[15:30:42] <Licho> im not
[15:30:50] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> It is your responsibility to fix it
[15:30:51] <Licho> i didnt add flood counter
[15:30:58] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> YOu are causing the flooding
[15:31:01] <Licho> ban it from your channel
[15:31:11] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> I should not have to
[15:31:19] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> I will, but I should not have to
[15:31:23] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> you are causing an issue
[15:31:34] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> but it's all fuckign about you, so you refuse to do anything about it
[15:31:39] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> pretentious prick.
[15:31:45] <Licho> i dont know what to do about it
[15:31:48] <Licho> i need it running to dev
[15:31:54] <Licho> or site i run locally wont work
[15:32:26] <Licho> and i need clone so it does what real nightwatch does
[15:32:30] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> Once magain, you are the cause of the problem
[15:32:32] <Licho> except its being hated by ubersrever
[15:32:43] <Licho> you can say that about aegis too
[15:32:46] <Licho> didnt add the limit
[15:32:48] <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> perhaps you should stop what you are doing until you find a way to do it where it does not cause problems to others


This is ridiculous. Licho can run roughshod over everyone here and when anyone complains we get the finger? This needs to be dealt with in some way.

P.S. Nightwatchdev has been flooding for almost 8 hours now (that I am aware of), possibly much longer.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:10 
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Not the first time.

Allow us to permanently remove the bot from our channels.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:34 
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FLOZi wrote:
Not the first time.

Allow us to permanently remove the bot from our channels.


/hook !#
!#ban NightwatchDev


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:37 
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Licho, I didn't get it, Why do we need this bot ? for spamming and annoying ?

What does it do ?


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:38 
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Jazcash wrote:
/hook !#
!#ban NightwatchDev

WTF is that ? :shock:


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:40 
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danil_kalina wrote:
Jazcash wrote:
/hook !#
!#ban NightwatchDev

WTF is that ? :shock:


What does it look like? :P


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:45 
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Jazcash wrote:
What does it look like? :P

I have to be genius to use that properly. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:47 
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danil_kalina wrote:
Jazcash wrote:
What does it look like? :P

I have to be genius to use that properly. :mrgreen:


Well, for some reason Aegis didn't implement it into ChanServ so there's a bunch of commands that are only accessible via hooking and it isn't even documented anyway.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 02:19 
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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 08:16 
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Wtf? I removed it 5 minutes after we started discussing. By the time of last post it was already gone.

Thats it FA, you lost all my support.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 09:09 
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reinstate the nightwatch..


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 09:13 
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Forboding Angel wrote:
This is ridiculous. Licho can run roughshod over everyone here and when anyone complains we get the finger? This needs to be dealt with in some way.


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[00:17:20] <Licho> wtf [Evo]Forboding_Angel viewtopic.php?p=525152#p525152
[00:17:36] <Licho> i removed the nightwatchdev byt the tmie of last post of your excerp
[00:18:00] <Licho> thats it removing evorts, tell me, why should i help you with things after this?
[00:21:41] * Nightwatch Permissions changed for [Evo]Forboding_Angel http://zero-k.info/Users/Detail/2887
[00:21:55] <[LCC]GoogleFrog[0K]> oh no drama
[00:22:10] <Licho> not really drama
[00:22:16] <Licho> !kick [Evo]Forboding_Angel
[00:22:16] ** Server ** Chat closed.
[00:22:16] ** Server ** <Licho> has kicked <[Evo]Forboding_Angel> from the channe


Licho, ever out for his pound of flesh, has not gotten it. Notalobby is not capable of hosting games, therefore as there is no longer an evorts autohost, evorts users can no longer play games.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 09:15 
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Resources of the server are at your disposal. My work isn't.
Feel free to host any type of autohost/game service on the server (even full evorts site), will be happy to provide that, don't expect my assistance though.

Springie isn't spring-wide service, its just one autohost instance running on the machine. I offered to setup/configure it for other mods to help community but im not mandated to do that.

If you wan't own springie or spads, you can setup/configure own and it can of course run on the same machine.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 09:19 
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Ya know, none of this had to do with autohosts. You simply lashed out in the most damaging way you could think of.

Honestly, I think I'll be happier this way. I loved my spads autohost before going to springie, and this way I will be able to have spads again and I can set up things in an automated way. Moreover, I don't have to feel like a heel for bugging bibim to do this or that for it (because my update cycle sucked).

A little advance notice of you removing the evo autohosts would have been nice. You could have at least given me time to get the replacements up and running.

This whole ordeal just leaves me with smoth saying "I told you so" ringing in my head. This is the second time I would have been wise to listen to his advice.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 10:11 
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I've reactivated the EvoRTS host.

For the record the issue was fixed as soon as Licho was informed of it.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 10:23 
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Thanks KR. I'll have the replacement up hopefully today. I have it installed I just don't know how to properly configure it.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 11:36 
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And this thread is a prime example why in most firms, engineers/IT aren't supposed to talk to customers, regardless of knowledge. Arguments tend to escalate so easily.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 11:42 
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I have the host almost ready to go (By the grace of bibim xD). Give me a day if you would and I'll be all set. Thanks for he interim help kingraptor.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 12:28 
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OTHERS LIKE MYSELF ARE CONSTANTLY DISREGARDED. ITS OUTRAGEOUS!

SRSLY! WHAT HAVE THE DEVS EVER DONE FOR US?


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2012, 13:39 
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I can understand some of the points but this feels way too personal.


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