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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 13:35 
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http://lifehacker.com/5899346/co+meetin ... ation-tool

Looks pretty perfect for what you guys need.


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 13:55 
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Yeh, I can already imagine certain things bound to happen:
Licho[0K]> ffs this cheesecan trolling again ^H^H^H not sure i can agree with that proposal

But seriously though, I don't think you need anything special, just makes things more complicated :p


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 20:37 
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:roll:

One of the things wave adds to the table, is organization. Maybe you didn't notice the threaded conversation.


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 21:13 
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You can already get that with the P2 theme with Wordpress

( Or you can add live comment discussion to any theme using one of the plugins released by my work company )


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012, 21:14 
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that page is blank for me, having JS disabled by default.
if what this is about is google based, then: no thanks
also, i agree that we do not need anything else really


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 04:22 
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hoijui wrote:
that page is blank for me, having JS disabled by default.


There is seriously something wrong with you.

http://www.co-meeting.com/


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 07:12 
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there is pretty muhc no information on that page, apart from LOOK, IT'S GREAT!. what is the license? will it cost money if it goes out of beta? will it be hosted at their site only, or can you get the software for hosting it yourself? ...
in other words. not worth trying. even if it was the greatest, it might just fuck us up when it is un-beta'ed.

i also saw on their blog: "Co-meeting works on Internet Explorer 9 on trial bases"
.. des that mean it does not work on other browsers? trial bases? basis?

maybe in a year or so, but given that it is a commercial adventure, i doubt it will be useable for us.

maybe link to the actual page from the start, next time.


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 07:25 
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hoijui wrote:
maybe link to the actual page from the start, next time.


Are you completely oblivious to what lifehacker is?


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 08:41 
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Forboding Angel wrote:
hoijui wrote:
maybe link to the actual page from the start, next time.


Are you completely oblivious to what lifehacker is?


Assume yes and explain.


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 12:52 
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about.com wrote:
"Computers make us more productive. Yeah, right. Lifehacker recommends the downloads, websites and shortcuts that actually save time. Don't live to geek; geek to live!"

Yes, webbies... Lifehacker is an online community dedicated to 21st Century thinking people. Here is where you get digital knowledge and life knowledge, all in one place!


#9 on About.com's most useful websites, is probably my favorite site on the internet. Treasure trove of information on anything and everything

wikipedia wrote:
Lifehacker is a weblog/news site about life hacks and software which launched on January 31, 2005. The site is owned by Gawker Media and covers Microsoft Windows, Mac, and Linux programs as well as time-saving tips and tricks. The staff updates the site about 18 times each weekday, with reduced updates on weekends. The Lifehacker motto is "Tips and downloads for getting things done."


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 20:05 
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to me, NoScript is pretty much such a thing.. makes lifeeasier when browsing, cause less shit crashes or hangs my browser, and i can have 4 times the number of tabs open before my systme starts to crawl.
i assume livehacker does not recommend it, cause otherwise they woudl probably see how fail their site is when using this tool. btw, i can not remember any other site that is as fail with NoScript as this one, at least none that contians text that is only shown when JS is enabled.
also.. i have no idea why it would be relevant what lifehack is, when i say you should better link to the actual site.
and.. them suggesting to use a beta thing like that, where it is totally unclear what will happen after the beta ...
two fails for lifehack, no win (for all i know about it).
then again... ido not need a website to enhance my life, theres telefone numbers for that. they go like 69 666 69 69 69 66 or similar.
(woops.. forgot this may only be the case in german speakign countries... nm)


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PostPosted: 06 Apr 2012, 22:59 
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Actually lifehacker has recommended noscript many times.

http://www.lifehacker.com/337747/secure ... h-noscript

http://www.lifehacker.com/noscript

But disabling javascript altogether in your browser is fucking retarded. Noscript doesn't outright disable javascript, you have to specifically set that.

Lifehacker.com wrote:
Co-Meeting Is Google Wave-Inspired Group Collaboration Tool
by Alan Henry

Remember Google Wave? We still do, and depending on who you ask, it was either a collaboration tool that was ahead of its time, or a complicated tool with no single defined purpose. Either way, if you miss the unique, real-time collaboration features that Google Wave offered, Co-Meeting is a new web service that brings a lot of them back, including real-time, as-you're-typing conversations, document storage, in-line to-dos, notes, and meeting minutes, and more.
Co-Meeting borrows a lot of tricks from Google Wave, most notably the ability to have up to 30 people in one workspace at the same time, all typing and interacting with one another, updating documents, starting and answering comments and posts and threads, and in general just working together. As everyone talks, one click turns any posted comment into a to-do item or a progress update to an existing to-do. We can see people working on remote teams using the tool to stay in touch with each other and have separate conversations when a simple top-to-bottom chat won't do. The service even keeps track of where you left a conversation so you can get up to speed quickly when you return.

It's important to note that while Co-Meeting is inspired by Google Wave, it doesn't dive as deep as Wave did, which allows it to keeps its focus squarely on improving meetings and group projects when your team or coworkers aren't in the same room. If you're a remote worker, freelancer with multiple clients, or a project manager who doesn't want to drag everyone into yet another meeting, Co-Meeting is worth a look. Plus, it's free, at least while it's in public beta. Plus, if you're still sore that Google Wave has gone read-only, Co-Meeting even allows you to import your waves so you can pick up where you left off.


I linked to the lifehacker article because they summarized it and did a nice review of it. Linking you to the site would have told you nothing.

I was being courteous (You do not understand this at all) and helpful, hoijui.


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2012, 08:52 
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NoScript disables JS by default, and you have to enable it specificly (per domain).
so.. you go to lifehack, see recommended plugin called NoScript, install it, lifehack is empty site -> lifehack hacked itsself
pro!


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2012, 20:28 
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Not gracefully degrading when javascript is disabled is what's retarded.

May I point out the alternatives I posted links to work in all browsers, with and without javascript under GPL 2 licences, and have been actively and extensively used for the development of large open source projects, on a non-commercial basis, and are actively maintained


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2012, 22:30 
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hoijui wrote:
NoScript disables JS by default, and you have to enable it specificly (per domain).
so.. you go to lifehack, see recommended plugin called NoScript, install it, lifehack is empty site -> lifehack hacked itsself
pro!


Typically, someone would allow a site that they liked. If they blocked the site, then that would just make them morons.

There is a separation here: The writers, the owners of the company (gawker media, which comprises like 6 or 8 sites, all running the same template). So just because someone writes for a company, doesn't mean that he gets any say whatsoever over the company website.

You act like any site that has javascript is evil. Spoiler alert... 80% of the modern internet is supported by javascript.

@AF, yeah, gawker media changed all the sites they own to this horrible new format a while back. The lifehacker guys complain about it every now and then, but in the end, the writers have no choice in the matter.


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