Engine Testing - 10. Aug 2012 (89.0.1-87-gce4d36e)

[Google_Frog]

I'll just point out (again) that I implemented a much better target lock in 88.0 in lua. It is better because it does not interact with the normal command queue structure at all. A target can be set or removed with by widgets, hotkeys or by selecting the command from the command menu.

I don't see any reason for it to be done engine side. Anyone who wants target lock can include the gadget in their game and let players do what they want with it. I even made a widget which implements the behaviour later added to the engine.

[FLOZi]

I'll just point out (again) that I implemented a much better target lock in 88.0 in lua. It is better because it does not interact with the normal command queue structure at all. A target can be set or removed with by widgets, hotkeys or by selecting the command from the command menu.

I don't see any reason for it to be done engine side. Anyone who wants target lock can include the gadget in their game and let players do what they want with it. I even made a widget which implements the behaviour later added to the engine.

+1

[smoth]

nobody ever uses return fire?

+1

I do. Deal with it.

[AF]

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[Johannes]

nobody ever uses return fire?

+1

I do. Deal with it.

Ok, just revert things to old behaviour and everyone should be happy.

[jamerlan]

typo in changelog))
- fix some OpenGL usage errors found by decal
decal? [teh]decay

[smoth]

Johannes, that has nothing to do with return fire.

[abma]

typo in changelog))
- fix some OpenGL usage errors found by decal
decal? [teh]decay

oops, fixed.

[BaNa]

I'm happy about current target lock behavior (only thing is that it should include a cooldown when going out of range (3-5s and it stops targeting dude)).

It makes for much more fun micro - coms are easier to snipe cause you can micro away from dgun without losing target.

[PepeAmpere]

I have two observations

1) pathfinding is changed again and groups of small units in NOTA choose their path very nice as I remember from some older versions.

2) the problem I was posting here is in this current engine version solved by teleporting transporter into needed flight level. In one moment aircraft is near ground, in second jump 100 elmos up or more (depends how high is the hill) and continue in flight

all tested with NOTA 1.681 + last engine release

[Google_Frog]

I'm happy about current target lock behavior (only thing is that it should include a cooldown when going out of range (3-5s and it stops targeting dude)).

It makes for much more fun micro - coms are easier to snipe cause you can micro away from dgun without losing target.

Anyone who wants target lock can include the gadget in their game and let players do what they want with it. I even made a widget which implements the behaviour later added to the engine.

[Forboding Angel]

Target lock is bad mmk?

[jamerlan]

I think it's important to fix these bugs (from "Spring 89.0!" thread):

Even after removing dragoon teeth units cannot go though where dt use to br . U need to individually micro step by srep every single unit So that work

and

I have troubles with constructors every time I play on water (BA). I build many constructors to guard factory and they pushed to factory and factory don't produce because of pushed constructor ships into it.

I will test this test release today to understand: are these bugs fixed or not yet.

[zerver]

Even after removing dragons teeth units cannot go through where dt use to be

I think they can, but it takes way too long before the pathing system will update to allow units to take the new paths that were previously blocked.

[PicassoCT]

nobody ever uses return fire?

+1

I do. Deal with it.

I do to. Its the only way to controll economic spill in my mod. Otherwise soldiers would pump expensive ammonition into worthless buildings all day long, bleeding you dry.

So +1

[jamerlan]

Even after removing dragons teeth units cannot go through where dt use to be

I think they can, but it takes way too long before the pathing system will update to allow units to take the new paths that were previously blocked.

Maybe it deformates terraian too much during building. Sorry, yesterday I had no time to test. I will try to test it today.

[jamerlan]

I tried under windows vs AI and it crashed. Infolog and demo are atttached

[jamerlan]

next attempt - commander stuck
demo attached. It's very short

[jamerlan]

next try.

Big troubles... unplayable.

03:15 - commander can't build water lab

12:10 - 14-00 - water t1 cons can't build adv shipyard.

demo attached.

[jamerlan]

I tested more... can't reproduce "Even after removing dragoon teeth units cannot go though where dt use to br . U need to individually micro step by srep every single unit So that work" in singleplayer. Maybe it's reproducible only if enemy built these dt. Or it was fixed (I doubt).