Fast food is (really) bad for you

[Cheesecan]

It's nearly inorganic and doesn't decompose like regular food does:
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/06/14/ ... alds-food/

12 year old McBurger as good as new:
http://www.jabulela.com/food-drink/mcdo ... st-forever

McNuggets contain silicone:
http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2010/07/2 ... in-common/

And are mostly made out of food starch and garbage:
http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2011/03/2 ... l-for-you/

Almost all fast food chains have health code violations (while you visit them):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3473728/

[SinbadEV]

It's nearly inorganic and doesn't decompose like regular food does:
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/06/14/ ... alds-food/

12 year old McBurger as good as new:
http://www.jabulela.com/food-drink/mcdo ... st-forever

McNuggets contain silicone:
http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2010/07/2 ... in-common/

And are mostly made out of food starch and garbage:
http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2011/03/2 ... l-for-you/

Almost all fast food chains have health code violations (while you visit them):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3473728/

Please cite peer reviewed studies supporting your claims... McDonald's website says their beef is made from beef with no filler or binding agent.

[Hoi]

Industrial poisons, pesticides, etc can be found in every human in dangerously high concentrations.

This really isn't big news. Most of the food we eat isn't very healthy, and yes, fast food is the worst. Remember that thingy a few months ago where kellogg put metal, actual metal, in their cornflakes so they could advertise it for being healthy because it has metal in it? Now why did they not use the thing we do need, not metal but a metal ion? Because real metal is cheaper than the 'metal' our body really needs. If I remember correctly they used scrap metal for this. Old cars, etc.

In the last 10 years we lost 30% of earths lands that allows for farming/growing because of the usage of chemicals, and if you know that 99.9% of our food comes from those lands you will see we're going to have a big problem in the future. However, this is just one of the huge problems we're going to have to deal with in the very near future. The sad thing is, it's not that there are no alternatives and better ways for everything, it's that we don't use those because there's no profit in the form of money to gain... If we want to survive we will really need to learn to stop using money, because it stops us from doing what we should do: survive and improve as a species.

@sinbad:

Please don't start with this peer reviewed journal crap. Many things that are not stated by peer reviewed journals are true, and many things peer reviewed journals state are not true... Just because these things exists it does not mean you can't trust anything that is not a peer reviewed journal.

Besides that the second link shows something really shocking you don't need a peer reviewed journal for to believe. The woman who did this experiment has a website with pictures of the burger every month or week. It clearly shows that the burgers don't go bad. And that just can't be healthy.

If you don't believe it then go to the mac, get a burger and do the same experiment.

[Panda]

I don't really like fast food, especially since I used to work at a McDonald's and smelled it every day, but I'm not actually against it. I don't like a lot of greasy foods which are often what is sold at fast food restaurant because they tend to irritate my stomach, but not all food that you order at a fast food restaurant is greasy. There are some good salads, fruit, and yogurt that you can get. Plus, when your options are eat something or faint and you don't happen to have a snack on you (especially not a healthy one), fast food is helpful. The way I look at it, as long as you aren't eating it every single day, Super Sizing it, and try to eat some healthy stuff too, it's alright. Besides, fast food restaurants give lots of young people who need a beginning job a respectable job and educational opportunities that they may not otherwise have. It's difficult to be upset with a company when they do a lot of good things for people, are selling the food that people want to buy, and a lot of other businesses sell unhealthy foods as well.

[Wombat]

and u found out about this now ?

unbelivablu

[hoijui]

WTF!?!?!!?
Panda are you serious?
that is probably the most stupid thing that was ever said on this forum.
you actually suggest that more people would lack food if McDonalds would not exist?
If no fast food restaurants would exist, there would obviously be more other restaurants. working at McDonnalds is not a respectable job.
Without McDonnalds, but more normal restaurants instead, there would actually be respectable jobs available, and students working there could learn something there... at work.
They do NOTHING good for people!
They open up new McD restaurants right next to schools.

It's difficult to be upset with a company when they do a lot of good things for people, are selling the food that people want to buy, and a lot of other businesses sell unhealthy foods as well.

It's difficult to be upset with Hitler, because his people loved him, and they disliked jews too, obviously. they also fought for him, and lots of people all around the world (as long as they were not attacked by him them selfs) looked up to him, and went on using his tactics, strategies and techniques (most dominantly the US, perhaps). Of course he was by far not the first or the last to start war, or do genocide.
just gotta love him!

[Satirik]

It clearly shows that the burgers don't go bad. And that just can't be healthy.

why ?

[SinbadEV]

It clearly shows that the burgers don't go bad. And that just can't be healthy.

why ?

Yeah, srsly... humans have been consuming preservatives for generations... and we're living longer... perhaps preservatives are GOOD for us, hmmm?

[smoth]

Hardly was the dumbest thing ever posted.. She isn't going to like that comment. Kinda wrong of you man.


Fast food is cheap.
Resteraunts are not

There would be less jobs.
People would not go eat the more expensive food they would stay home.

People having less jobs would mean less money for food

Yeah I think you are not thinking your counterpoint through.


Ot: I love fanta, tastes great google brominated. Not good for me, pfft don't care. I also love twizzlers, no clue what makes them up. Also it has been shown that the chemicals used to make condoms are carcinogens lol in your penis

[Jazcash]

It's difficult to be upset with Hitler, because his people loved him, and they disliked jews too, obviously. they also fought for him, and lots of people all around the world (as long as they were not attacked by him them selfs) looked up to him, and went on using his tactics, strategies and techniques (most dominantly the US, perhaps). Of course he was by far not the first or the last to start war, or do genocide.
just gotta love him!

We're at Hitler already? Really?...

[Wombat]

i haz mcdonalnds chocolate shake right now.

and its epic.

also they make best cheeseburgers ever. cba about the rest.

[Cheesecan]

It's difficult to be upset with Hitler, because his people loved him, and they disliked jews too, obviously.

Only 5 posts in and this topic already encountered reductio ad hitlerum. *proud*

Fast food is cheap.
Resteraunts are not

In many poor countries there are street vendors who sell properly cooked fresh foods, prepared outside where everyone can see them so there is no chance they can be spitting in the food etc what goes on in McDonalds thanks to disgruntled employees. There are lines and lines of people like these anywhere you go in towns in the developing world and they are all self-employed, make a good living off it and are respected for their trade.

Basically they're all doomed to have their jobs stolen by the likes of McDonald's. I'd say it is a definite change for the worse.

[smoth]

We have those in big cities. I used to hit up a local guy in MS who did new York style hotdogs every day out of a cart. (because "it was part of new York that he wanted to bring with him"

One guy did it. And there are many other similar things statewide. In my hometown you could get real jambalaya from locals right next to the subway etc.

You think America is all fast food then you don't know America.


The small shops are a bit more expensive and seldom hire more than a few people. They are more expensive because they cannot buy in the bulk that mcdonalds can. This alone means they will not offer the same cheap food.

"but but in poor countries" yeah, they pay much much less for foods and often can have direct contact with farmers and markets where they get their goods.

[SinbadEV]

The Economy* is stupid and broken.

My favourite example:

If I could buy a robot that could do your job, 24/7, better then you and for less money... three people would lose their job and my company would make a bunch more money because I don't have to pay for your house and car payments, insurance, food and all the other stuff you spend your salary on... but then OH NO, we have three people who aren't drawing salaries and need to get a new job!

So the natural assumption is that I shouldn't buy the robot that will make me rich because it will make you poor.

The annoying thing is that YOU DON'T NEED TO BE WORKING... me not buying my robot is basically like a make work program... I might as well just pay you to put up and take down useless fences around my property, build birdhouses or paint fire hydrants a different colour... except then I wouldn't have money to buy and maintain my robot.

It's STUPID.

This is why we don't send excess food to the third-world... it would cause local farmers to lose their livelihoods and starve!


* The way the world works as it relates to the distribution, exchange and production of resources, manufactured good and services

[KaiserJ]

fast food and corporate food production work hand in hand;

sure, they provide some jobs to young people...

if none of it existed, instead of working at a mcdonalds, you'd be able to work at a farm, or at a family-owned non-chain restaurant and actually be able to make a career out of it because the wages would not be fixed at a super low rate

really its an argument against globalization and monopoly of food production

on one hand you have deteriorating conditions in farms; unskilled migrant workers are paid very little and forced to work in dangerous environments in slaughterhouses;

and on the other hand you have a business model like subway where theres a middleman between the store owner and the corporation whose only job is to sell franchises... the kicker is that they are paid for each restaurant franchise they sell, regardless of location and profit...

even near my home, the choice is obvious... work at pizza pizza for 8 bucks (its a franchise here) or at the local mom n pop burger joint for 10 (which, thankfully, is the more popular restaurant)

basing most of this on my own experience as well as "fast food nation" which is a great amerifag book about how fast food and farms are totally fucked in the sense that quality has taken a backseat to profit (actually maybe "tossed quality out of the back window while speeding down the highway" is a better analogy)

in a word : hitler
but at the same time : sinbad asking for a peer review is still by far the stupidest thing in this thread

[KaiserJ]

thats a moot point because it would take more than 3 skilled workers to make a robot

[knorke]

It is so nice of mc donalds to feed the world with their cheap food. Otherwise our only option would be to faint!
Except the crop that gets planted on cut down forests could be used to feed over 9000 people instead of feeding it to cows to feed it to people but w/e

that people want to buy

best arguement ever.
lets see what people also buy:

http://georgiaworld.files.wordpress.com ... lbum11.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/d ... agring.jpg
http://www.scarpaz.com/Napalm/napalm.jpg
http://www.derwesten.de/omg/467137-2086 ... 63.JPG.jpg
(decided to replace [img] with [url] even if though less lolz this way. np thank me later. just imagine its a ton of images and you scrolled for ages thinking "yea, he has a point there")

Basically what mc donalds does (and other companies too, of course not just in food sector) is to fuck up the local economy/agriculture/labor market and replace it with their own crap.
If people dont care about it (because we profit from it) that might be one thing but to defend it as good? wow.

[smoth]

. . . . In China.

[SinbadEV]

sinbad asking for a peer review is still by far the stupidest thing in this thread

Wow... Irony/Sarcasm doesn't work well on the internet does it.

[KaiserJ]

frankly, if you want to make retarded troll posts, then go ahead and step down as moderator >_> if you want to keep acting like a tool and shitting all over the community, then i hope a truck runs you over IRL.

its not my place to have to look at your post and decide its relevance; you post OT about things you're clueless in and crap peoples threads up and i'm sick of it

providing a -great- example to regular forum members who see you condoning this manner of posting and decide to do it themselves. hold yourself to a higher standard or don't come here at all; you have nothing to do with any current spring development so the worth of your presence here is questionable at best