Useless replies and bad community members.

Useless replies and bad community members.

Various things about Spring that do not fit in any of the other forums listed below, including forum rules.

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Petah
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Useless replies and bad community members.

Post by Petah »

I think the forums need some kind of hiding system for off topic replies (or trolling as you may call it).

For example most of the first few replies in this post are off topic and pointless http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 3&start=20

The replies should just be collapsed so you can just see the users name,
reply date and subject. And a button to expand (or expand all) the post if you want to read it.

Could be something like the thumbs up/down buttons on youtube. I get sick of read pointless replies.

I'm sure there will be a phpBB mod for this.
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Peet
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Post by Peet »

Add them as foes.
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Petah
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Post by Petah »

Peet wrote:Add them as foes.
What would that do?
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Peet
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Post by Peet »

Exactly what you described.
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KaiserJ
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Post by KaiserJ »

like you petah i just get sick of non-helpful and fully negative replies

this forum should be about creative collaboration and helping people, rather than ripping on peoples work and ideas

and yes i'm definitely guilty of freaking out and being negative and telling people "if you want it, do it yourself"; but at the same time, if someone does something wrong or you see how something could be improved, its a matter of offering positive suggestions without being overly aggressive...

post information rating isn't a bad idea though; i'd be able to just click "thumbs down" instead of either a rage post or ignoring completely

i think in the example post its a combination of misinterpreted post intent combined with people sleeping on tizbac... its hardly the stupidest thing i've seen though
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Petah
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Post by Petah »

Peet wrote:Exactly what you described.
Wrong, I don't want to hide every reply from a person. Only the ones that are pointless.

But the effect of hiding is almost perfect though, just needs a show button.
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Jazcash
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Post by Jazcash »

There's not many annoying posters here who don't make any relevant or helpful posts at all. Mostly, people just make a one-off post every now and then. Hell, even Wombat has made some contributions to the modelling departymont.
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Post by Andrej »

Basically this except for phpBB or whatever spring forums use
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maackey
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Post by maackey »

I would really like this as well. up/down votes on posts would hopefully encourage people to make more helpful/insightful comments and let the community help sort out the bad eggs.

Unfortunately I can't lurk the forums all day looking for trolls/spammers to quell, and usually when something does happen it often escalates or resolves before I even get home. Or it happens in some thread I haven't read and no one has reported anything.

I also really don't like deleting comments however retarded they are, if someone else takes the time to post a reasonable response. A comment with enough downvotes would be hidden by default but still allow continuity to a discussion if someone was curious about what was said.
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Hobo Joe
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Post by Hobo Joe »

Get over it. Forums need helpful posts and entertaining posts both, a lot of people who give 'useless' replies are giving entertainment, and a lot of the time those very same people will go to another thread or threads and make lots of helpful posts.

Stop whining.
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Post by very_bad_soldier »

So giving "entertainment" just necessarily includes insulting people?
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Beherith
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Post by Beherith »

No joe it does not.
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MidKnight
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Post by MidKnight »

Yeah, up/downvotes, behaving in a fashion similar to youtube/AOL blog (engadget, downloadsquad, TUAW, Joystiq, etc) comments, would be a really welcome addition.
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Hobo Joe
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Post by Hobo Joe »

very_bad_soldier wrote:So giving "entertainment" just necessarily includes insulting people?
I never said that
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KaiserJ
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Post by KaiserJ »

there's no point in an "entertaining" post; this forum is mainly about developing things for spring, and a useless reply to a technical question can be quite irritating, as well as can the tone of some posts, regardless of the intent

nothing wrong with a bit of entertainment but excessive stupidity and trolling are best kept on the lobby, right?

its just... certain posts, i dont agree with them at all, and instead of trying to argue a point it might be nice to just be able to "downvote" a comment that i didn't agree with or wasn't keen on

and again, its mostly about tone and content with the stuff that annoys me, rather than the actual intent of a post. negative feedback has the possibility of being the most helpful type of feedback to someone who is learning
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Hobo Joe
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Post by Hobo Joe »

unless it's excessively rude or counter-productive, I don't see the problem.

Remember what happened last time people got up in arms about rules and moderation? Yeah, a bunch of people got banned, some of them being big community members who had contributed a lot.
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MidKnight
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Hobo Joe wrote:unless it's excessively rude or counter-productive, I don't see the problem.

Remember what happened last time people got up in arms about rules and moderation? Yeah, a bunch of people got banned, some of them being big community members who had contributed a lot.
You see, If we had an upvote/downvote system, instead of spending valuable time and thought pointing out that your comment is deviating from the current topic of discussion (requesting an upvote/downvote system) and that the bans, for the most part, improved the tone and productivity of the forums, I would just downvote this post and get back to my 3d modeling.

:wink:
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Hobo Joe
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Re: Useless replies and bad community members.

Post by Hobo Joe »

MidKnight wrote:
Hobo Joe wrote:unless it's excessively rude or counter-productive, I don't see the problem.

Remember what happened last time people got up in arms about rules and moderation? Yeah, a bunch of people got banned, some of them being big community members who had contributed a lot.
You see, If we had an upvote/downvote system, instead of spending valuable time and thought pointing out that your comment is deviating from the current topic of discussion (requesting an upvote/downvote system) and that the bans, for the most part, improved the tone and productivity of the forums, I would just downvote this post and get back to my 3d modeling.

:wink:
Or you could just not read this post and get back to your 3d modeling.


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Beherith
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Post by Beherith »

Downvoting would have the undesirable effect of legitimizing trolling and disruptive behavior.
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Post by Gota »

Beherith wrote:Downvoting would have the undesirable effect of legitimizing trolling and disruptive behavior.
So say the overlords...
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