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PostPosted: 12 Aug 2010, 22:42 
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So i was gonna download the newest spring, but i got confused with the icons here:
http://springrts.com/wiki/Download

Please dont make up your own icons for those logos... just makes it confusing. (i think its illegal too).

Heres my suggestions i found from short googling and resized for the proper format (no, they do not need alpha blending, they are logos!):

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Maybe could add borders, but that could be done via CSS...


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2010, 23:14 
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I rather liked the other icons. Granted, I do understand the possibility for confusion given that they are not the brand logos. I believe they were chosen because it people thought it was illegal to use the windows and mac trademarked icons.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2010, 23:28 
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oksnoop2 wrote:
I rather liked the other icons. Granted, I do understand the possibility for confusion given that they are not the brand logos. I believe they were chosen because it people thought it was illegal to use the windows and mac trademarked icons.


Since when has it been illegal to label Windows with the Windows logo, Apple with the Apple logo and Linux with the Linux logo? If it's illegal to use the logos to caption their own product, then that would be the stupidest corporate move ever.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2010, 23:30 

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But, it's so cute. ;c

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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 00:33 
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It would probably be a good idea to use the actual Windows and Apple logos, even if just for easy visual understanding, but the Linux one is fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 01:51 
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I think the icons are funny... but at the very least, if you're going to use gag-icons you need to embrace the power of plain text.

Speaking of which, could we take EvolutionRTS off the Games Download page until Forb puts together a proper downloadable package? Right now he links right back to the Download page with instructions to go get yourself SpringDownloader and the Spring engine.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 02:02 
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Pxtl wrote:
I think the icons are funny... but at the very least, if you're going to use gag-icons you need to embrace the power of plain text.

Speaking of which, could we take EvolutionRTS off the Games Download page until Forb puts together a proper downloadable package? Right now he links right back to the Download page with instructions to go get yourself SpringDownloader and the Spring engine.

And add those instructions to the download page :/

"Spring engine updates" wtf its not just an update


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 08:43 
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i do not know what is legal/illegal, but the reason why you may not be allowed to use the proper icons is:
you do not label windows with the windows icon, but you label your own product (spring), which is made to run on windows (by you/us, not MS). when using an official MS icon, the user could probably think that the product is made by MS. If it fails in any way (say, it has a menu bar and the first menu item is NOT "File"), you make MS look bad.

Of course that is totally silly in practice, as anyone will know that spring is not made by MS, if it is/was law...


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 09:32 
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Pxtl wrote:
I think the icons are funny... but at the very least, if you're going to use gag-icons you need to embrace the power of plain text.

Speaking of which, could we take EvolutionRTS off the Games Download page until Forb puts together a proper downloadable package? Right now he links right back to the Download page with instructions to go get yourself SpringDownloader and the Spring engine.


As I have stated multiple times ad naseum and at length, there will be an installer when the new spring version arrives. Chill out and don't get your pants in a wad :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 12:44 
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hoijui wrote:
i do not know what is legal/illegal, but the reason why you may not be allowed to use the proper icons is:
you do not label windows with the windows icon, but you label your own product (spring), which is made to run on windows (by you/us, not MS). when using an official MS icon, the user could probably think that the product is made by MS. If it fails in any way (say, it has a menu bar and the first menu item is NOT "File"), you make MS look bad.

Of course that is totally silly in practice, as anyone will know that spring is not made by MS, if it is/was law...


If it's illegal to use the company logo then it's illegal to use the company name. Not to mention, think of all the thousands, no, millions of companies that have probably used the OS names and logos together for multiple reasons. You really think the OS corporations would bother trying to track them all down?

Not to mention, if the law was in place that you can't use a company's logo to complement it's brand name, Microsoft wouldn't just be a rich company, it would probably have world domination for suing those millions of companies.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 12:57 
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*snipped* oops, wrong thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 13:00 
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The point here is that it took me a while to find the windows installer... :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 13:11 
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TradeMark wrote:
The point here is that it took me a while to find the windows installer... :roll:

k you never played any adventures


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 13:19 
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hoijui wrote:
you do not label windows with the windows icon, but you label your own product (spring), which is made to run on windows (by you/us, not MS).


Image

im ps noob, just a suggestion, tho i still think old ones are good (well this apple is bit out of place)


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 13:19 
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I've uploaded the actual brand logos and replaced them because I'm just about certain that it's not illegal. If anybody gets a phone call from any of these three companies then feel free to revert them. I'm sure Apple, Windows and Linux would love somebody else making them a misleading new logo.


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 13:29 
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Lol, jK edited them back

LET THE EDIT WARS BEGIN


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 13:45 
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Aren't Wikis fun?

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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 16:16 
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Sauerbraten is pretty high profile and they've used those platform icons for years...


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 16:22 
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they are also in some linux/open licenced icon packs, stating they are free to use eveyrwhere (still proves nothing of course).


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 Post subject: Re: Download page icons
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2010, 16:24 
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Yeah exactly. So if i remove the OS names from the icons, is it better then? Also i find it better if the OS names are in the file download links too...


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