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UF Download Server Speeds

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 18:28
by iamacup
OK

does anyone know why this is happening?


(summary : UF download speeds are shit?)

[17:06:10] <[S44]Nemo> hi cup. I talked to you a while ago about UF being really, really slow. I'm guessing by the new structure that you've gotten new servers since then. However, I'm still getting absurdly slow rates (like 6kb/s) from all of the mirrors. Is UF just under a ton of stress all the time, or is there something else going on here?
[17:06:31] <[S44]Nemo> my connection is reasonably fast - I used to get ~300-500 kb/s from UF
[17:11:32] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> where do you live
[17:11:38] <[S44]Nemo> northeast US
[17:11:42] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> k sec
[17:11:45] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> speed test these 2 links
[17:12:25] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> sec
[17:12:37] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> http://www.unknown-files.net/files/spri ... e552757803
[17:12:37] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> and
[17:12:41] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> http://www.unknown-files.net/files/spri ... e552757803
[17:13:11] <[S44]Nemo> first one is 10-15 kb/s
[17:13:34] <[S44]Nemo> second one is the same
[17:13:37] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> ok
[17:14:05] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> go to command prompty
[17:14:06] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> type
[17:14:08] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> ping 205.234.186.130
[17:14:17] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> and paste me the very last line
[17:14:23] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> something like Minimum = 140ms, Maximum = 143ms, Average = 141ms
[17:14:34] <[S44]Nemo> yes, I know what the ping command does :P
[17:14:34] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> then type tracert 205.234.186.130
[17:14:40] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> tell me how many hops
[17:14:40] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> :p
[17:14:51] <[S44]Nemo> min=82, max=94, average=86
[17:14:57] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> wierd
[17:15:27] <[S44]Nemo> 16 hops
[17:15:47] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> whats your isp
[17:15:57] <[S44]Nemo> metrocast..er *tries to remember who owns them*
[17:17:40] <[S44]Nemo> harron communications, apparently
[17:17:49] <[S44]Nemo> but they cover most of the northeast US
[17:19:14] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> Chicago
[17:19:18] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> how far away is that
[17:19:19] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> from you
[17:19:28] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> because i get 8 hops to my server from the UK
[17:19:28] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> lol
[17:20:11] <[S44]Nemo> google maps says 982 miles
[17:20:22] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> ok quite far
[17:20:39] <[S44]Nemo> which is by road, so a little shorter as the crow flies
[17:22:10] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> im getting people to speed test
[17:22:19] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> i dont know of any problems but that doesent mean there arent any
[17:22:21] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> :P
[17:22:26] <[S44]Nemo> okay
[17:22:38] <[S44]Nemo> I mean, I suppose it could be my ISP getting greedy somehow
[17:22:43] <[S44]Nemo> but I still get fast rates from other sources
[17:22:57] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> yeh
[17:23:00] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> its my end
[17:23:00] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> i know :p
[17:23:03] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> ;-)
[17:23:08] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> server 2 is utter shit btw :p
[17:23:12] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> never use that one
[17:23:16] <[S44]Nemo> well, I tried a bunch of them
[17:23:25] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> does the coral network go any faster for you at all?
[17:23:30] <[S44]Nemo> both coralCDN and not
[17:23:30] <[S44]Nemo> no
[17:24:33] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> it seems like pot luck
[17:24:39] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> [17:24:01] <DavTech> the lowest it got was 300 kbps
[17:24:46] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> [17:24:07] <[LCC]quantum[K]> server 1: 450 kbps
[17:24:52] <[S44]Nemo> sonuvabitch -_-
[17:24:56] <[S44]Nemo> damn.
[17:25:02] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> [17:24:52] <[LCC]quantum[K]> germany: 1200kbps
[17:25:13] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> [17:24:45] <DavTech> most of the time it was 600kb/s
[17:25:14] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> lol
[17:25:20] <[S44]Nemo> yeah...I used to get those kinds of speeds
[17:25:26] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> seems i need a new download server... up north ;-)
[17:25:37] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> any sugestions?
[17:26:15] <[S44]Nemo> well..you shoudln't though - even servers in frickin' aussieland go faster than 6kb/s for me, usually.
[17:26:35] <[LCC]IaMaCuP> ok i know what to do


ALSO, post your speeds from various mirrors and your location (where you live :P)

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 18:58
by Deathblane
I'm sorry, 600kb/s, 1200kb/s?!! You'r all a bunch of w**kers :cry: (f*ing 2mb max here 56k at home)

Some things about the UK just suck giant donkey balls.

Uhh and I've not had any speed problems with UF recently.

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 21:37
by KDR_11k
[tinfoilhat]

His ISP has started throttling sources that don't pay their ransom. THIS is why we wanted net neutrality, because ISPs threatened to degrade connections to websites that don't pay to the ISP even if it's not their own ISP! They think Google is making money and they're not getting any of it so they want to bill Google while they don't realize that those websites are what gives them customers in first place!

[/tinfoilhat]

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 21:47
by Peet
I think you mean you FORGOT your tinfoil hat >_>

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 23:35
by Forboding Angel
I have never gotten below 530 kbps Ever when downloading from UF. Which is why I have trouble understanding how some people in america claim to get low download speeds. I live in the midwest, but meh.

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 23:57
by Nemo
I was the same way FA, until about a month ago. Then suddenly I started getting 56k (IE 6kbps and lower) rates from UF (and a few other random places, like Argh's site, and one of the WWII reference sites I use).

I'm praying that its just something on UF's end, and not my ISP going psycho on me, but yeah..I don't really know.

Posted: 21 Jan 2007, 23:58
by hrmph
If you've noticed it happening on other sites that UF doesn't host: then most-likely it isn't a problem on UF's end. (Personally I haven't noticed any lag: btw I live in the southern U.s.)

Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 00:10
by LathanStanley
I'm down in Houston TX, I get from 450-600 kbps... :wink:

Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 00:22
by Nemo
Well, I'd *know* it was on my end if all sites were this slow, but I get my normal rates from the large majority of places: 300-800kbps, generally.

So yeah, this is confusing to me.

Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 08:31
by Strategia
It's because of all the pr0n that people in your areas download. ;)

No, seriously, I have never had any issues with UF download speeds. Most things (~30MB max) download in a few seconds if they're alone, otherwise it's roughly two minutes, if I'm downloading multiple files (i.e. the newest files, different map revisions like with DeltaSiege). I live in the Netherlands.

Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 09:27
by Comp1337
i get ~250 kB/s on my 2mb line from UF. Id say its pretty fast.

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 01:05
by LOrDo
I get about 5kbs from UF.

Thats fast for me btw.

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 02:45
by grumpy_Bastard
imacup, I noticed on your site, your reporting file size and bandwidth wrong. Mb means mega-bits, MB means mega-bytes. Either im having a problem with leeching and your stats are co-incidentally reporting 1/8th of the current bandwidth usage, or someone forgot that there are 8 bits in a byte (or four bits in a nibble). I dont want to split hairs on minor details, but its pretty lame to see sites where people cant get that straight.
Deathblane wrote:I'm sorry, 600kb/s, 1200kb/s?!! You'r all a bunch of w**kers :cry: (f*ing 2mb max here 56k at home)

Some things about the UK just suck giant donkey balls.
The UK supposedly has faster interent service avalible for more reasonable prices than in the USA. My 4mb/384k cable service costs me $30.00 per month currently due to a promotional sign-on thing the company was offering, after that I think it comes out to about $50.00 USD per month, I havent decided yet on switching back to dialup... DSL? hah.. I wish that was avalible, even so, 7mb DSL would cost me $60.00 USD per month plus modem rental. There are no other options here, and I live in an area with close to 1/2 million residents. Out of the city, if your close enough to make a dialup connection... hurrah. If not, you can enjoy 128Kbps satellite with 2.5-3 second pings.
Forboding Angel wrote:I have never gotten below 530 kbps Ever when downloading from UF. Which is why I have trouble understanding how some people in america claim to get low download speeds. I live in the midwest, but meh.
Ive had problems with unkown-files, starting back in april up untill a few weeks ago, absolutley horrible speeds (10-20KBps, regardless of which server). Long story short, im now a mirror, I use my site when I need a file, and I havent had any complaints of my own about speeds anymore. Im working out details with co-location on a 10Mb dedicated line, so bandwidth might not be as plentiful as before.

Ive been watching my traffic logs to wolfgame, most of its pretty hit-or-miss. Some days of the week, I will get close to 10k hits, with certain hours of the day getting nearly 1/3rd of the hits all at once...

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 08:29
by iamacup
grumpy_Bastard wrote:imacup, I noticed on your site, your reporting file size and bandwidth wrong. Mb means mega-bits, MB means mega-bytes. Either im having a problem with leeching and your stats are co-incidentally reporting 1/8th of the current bandwidth usage, or someone forgot that there are 8 bits in a byte (or four bits in a nibble). I dont want to split hairs on minor details, but its pretty lame to see sites where people cant get that straight.
its 80 percent off!!"?>?!>>?!>?!>?!>!?>!!>!>?!?!?!?!??!?

ooops

i know its not exact but.... it shouldnt be that bad!

**sigh** ill look into it :P

can you email me actual usage to iamacup2@dsl.pipex.com ?

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 08:37
by el_matarife
grumpy_Bastard wrote: The UK supposedly has faster interent service avalible for more reasonable prices than in the USA. My 4mb/384k cable service costs me $30.00 per month currently due to a promotional sign-on thing the company was offering, after that I think it comes out to about $50.00 USD
Good to see both the UK & US lie about the quality of our respective broadband providers compared to Asia and some other countries. I pay $35 USD a month for 6 megabit down, 768 up with one dynamic IP. Some areas near me now have Verizon's FIOS fiber to the premises service that's 15 megabit down, 2 megabit up for maybe $10 more a month.

Anyway, I usually get 600 KB/s off of Unknown Files, but I have noticed on occasion that the first mirror is slow, and that some of the others down the list are faster. Anyway you can put a load graph up? If we knew which ones were used less, we wouldn't keep overloading the same ones.

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 10:42
by Wasp
I'm suppose to be on a high-speed broadband plan, off all mirrors I get anything from 10-30 KB/S, this is probably because I'm only downloading off one stream from overseas( New Zealand ). If you would allow 2-3 streams per download that I would appreciate that.

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 16:47
by iamacup
Wasp wrote:I'm suppose to be on a high-speed broadband plan, off all mirrors I get anything from 10-30 KB/S, this is probably because I'm only downloading off one stream from overseas( New Zealand ). If you would allow 2-3 streams per download that I would appreciate that.
i dont know how yet to program support for this. i will look into it.

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 17:53
by LordMatt
iamacup wrote:can you email me actual usage to iamacup2@dsl.pipex.com ?
SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM :twisted:

Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 18:47
by iamacup
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Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 20:01
by tombom
You have to mark stuff as junk for it to work. I think.