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sharpshooters. how to avoid?

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 21:29
by duncs
HOW????

they ruin me every time they're used against me.

how to find? how to kill? how? how? it really irritates me. :(

this is AA 2.23 I'm talking about

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 21:40
by Snipawolf
Then discuss in the AA topic...

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 21:41
by Relative
Scouting of the area, that motion sensor detection thing, and be on the offensive and stop porcing. Snipers are anti-procing units, they are meant to be effective against your static units. Plus, the snipers have very weak armour and have a slow reload time meaning a group of peewees could take them out.

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 22:21
by duncs
right, just died again 'cos of snipers.

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 22:31
by duncs
Relative wrote:Scouting of the area, that motion sensor detection thing, and be on the offensive and stop porcing. Snipers are anti-procing units, they are meant to be effective against your static units. Plus, the snipers have very weak armour and have a slow reload time meaning a group of peewees could take them out.
ok. well I had dragon's eyes up so I could see them as they were nailing me. I had a guardian up too so that sorta killed them in slow motion. they were amongst the enemy's static defenses so sending in anything wouldnt' have worked. when anything was sent in, they retreated.

I had HLTs WAY behind the dragon's eyes and their range was not long enough to touch the snipers. maybe the enemy had a scout but I don't know. (map was tangerine, I was defending bottom left path)

ok, well my solution: I'm playing arm from now on.

oh, and if anyone says 'don't porc': could someone point me to a nice non-porcing tangerine replay?

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 22:49
by NOiZE
- Spam cheap units
- bomb them

Posted: 26 Dec 2006, 23:11
by duncs
NOiZE wrote:- Spam cheap units
- bomb them
aha. I will try next time (but still playing arm ;)

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 00:12
by Neddie
I could send you a nice, replay of Tangerine where I didn't porc, if you would like. Should I host it, or do you have a location in mind?

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 02:46
by Maelstrom

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 02:59
by Neddie
http://replays.unknown-files.net/?133

Not the best example, but it should help.

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 14:18
by YHCIR
NOiZE wrote:- Spam cheap units
- bomb them
Yes, there are only a few ways, unless you have (more/higher XP) snipers yourself.
Spamming fleas/zippers/weasels.
Brawlers are good for killing them. EMP bombers, bombers.
Use a spy kbot to get close to them so you can see them.
EMP bomb their power plants if you can get close (may as well EMP bomb the snipers) but if you can't see them etc.
Scout planes will spot them, and they are unlikely to have AA with them, people don't usually give their position away.

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 14:34
by YHCIR
neddiedrow wrote:http://replays.unknown-files.net/?133

Not the best example, but it should help.
I didn't see any snipers... :?:

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 18:47
by ZellSF
YHCIR wrote:
neddiedrow wrote:http://replays.unknown-files.net/?133

Not the best example, but it should help.
I didn't see any snipers... :?:
Apparently, you don't see all the posts in this topic either, so maybe you shouldn't reply to it :/

And neddiedrow, that replay was rather porcy. sure, you porced on their side, but still.

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 21:31
by YHCIR
ZellSF wrote:
YHCIR wrote:
neddiedrow wrote:http://replays.unknown-files.net/?133

Not the best example, but it should help.
I didn't see any snipers... :?:
Apparently, you don't see all the posts in this topic either, so maybe you shouldn't reply to it :/

And neddiedrow, that replay was rather porcy. sure, you porced on their side, but still.
My bad, but no need to be an ass about it.

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 22:06
by ZellSF
YHCIR wrote:
ZellSF wrote:
YHCIR wrote: I didn't see any snipers... :?:
Apparently, you don't see all the posts in this topic either, so maybe you shouldn't reply to it :/

And neddiedrow, that replay was rather porcy. sure, you porced on their side, but still.
My bad, but no need to be an ass about it.
Saying that doesn't make you much better.

Posted: 27 Dec 2006, 23:16
by Tobi
Stop. Flaming.

Posted: 28 Dec 2006, 02:36
by Neddie
Methinks somebody hasn't rushed in a long time. Should I have gone without LLT's or a factory Zell? That is most commonly referred to as suicide.

My favourite counters to Snipers are Zippers and Fighters/Gunships. However, mines, cloaked popup turrets, bombers and LRPCs can all handle them alone in a pinch. And mixing units only gives you more options.

Fleas & Rockos are a good cheap solution.

Posted: 28 Dec 2006, 04:58
by ZellSF
neddiedrow wrote:Methinks somebody hasn't rushed in a long time. Should I have gone without LLT's or a factory Zell? That is most commonly referred to as suicide.
I said it was porcing, not that you had other options. There's other ways to rush than with a commander though.

Posted: 28 Dec 2006, 15:53
by quantum
Often it's suicide to go 100% offence if all your teammates are porcing. If your enemies have a bit of sense, they will all focus on you and you'll be dead in moments. After that, they will slowly mop up the porcers, and your teammates will blame you since you crumbled first.

That said, it' a lot less boring to live and die guns blazing than to last through an interminable slow-motion porc contest.

Posted: 28 Dec 2006, 17:21
by LordMatt
If your teammates refuse to play offensively, you might as well use their coms for combombs to aid your assault. :P