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$25,000,000 creation museum being built
Posted: 13 Nov 2006, 21:56
by Sheekel
*sigh* Thankfully I'm moving back to Canada for university, because the people in this country...here:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14122311/
├óÔé¼┼ôAmericans just aren├óÔé¼Ôäót gullible enough to believe that they came from a fish,├óÔé¼┬Ø he said.
No...they believe an invisible man in the sky made them out of mud and blew on them.
What a joke. What are they going to do? Buy fossils and hang signs next to them that read "this isn't real"?
They could be using the money to feed the poor, help the homeless, educate the children of third world nations...
For shame America, for shame.
Posted: 13 Nov 2006, 21:56
by Neddie
Old news.
Posted: 13 Nov 2006, 21:59
by bwansy
http://www.creationtheory.org/
Takes quite some time to read the whole site, but definitely worth it.
EDIT: Don't be fooled by the address. This is actually a scientific site, which lists the majority of the creationists' mindless arguments, and how to rebut them, all in an amusing way. One thing the author pointed out right: don't think you can win simply because it is true.
The more scientific (smart, rational, whatever) you are, the more amusing the site is, and the more you can learn from it.
Posted: 13 Nov 2006, 22:29
by Cabbage
Creationism is a pile of steaming horse shite. And the fact that some american schools teach it is simply mind boggling
Posted: 13 Nov 2006, 23:20
by rattle
Those 25 million should have been used for something more useful...
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 00:46
by Snipawolf
Creationalism!? PAH! What a load of BS... Honestly, what caused the big bang that started Earth? NOTHING! God did, or Allah, or Buddah, or whomever you believe in! Seriously... We may have evolved from primates, but it was God's Will that made us!
I'm gunna quit before this becomes some sort of religious debate...
Back on-topic..
25 Mil.. What could I do with that, eh? Bridges, hospitals, roads, welfare, more police in these cities where
gangsta's are, and that's about all I care to think of about now.
Seriously though, 25 Mil that could have been used so much more efficiently...
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 00:52
by j5mello
For the love of... its a privately funded project. Its not like the government is wandering around handing these people cash. Don't poke fun at our government for allowing this to happen. Can we poke fun at something other than America and its people plz?
Also its not just Americans that believe in creationism so lets spread the nashing of teeth around eh?
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 00:55
by Forboding Angel
It's privatelt funded. The guy can spend it on whatever the hell he wants and tell you to go screw yourself. It's his money. And you have the audacity to tell him how he should spend his money?
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 01:06
by SwiftSpear
Honestly it sounds like a bad idea to me. If this guy is a creationist, presumably a Christian, he should be spending his money on improving the world not pedaling rhetoric. History is history, creationist history isn't different from the history of reality, if it is then creationism is invalid. Why can't he make a normal museum, why does his museum have to be a creationism museum? I imagine not only that it would be more economically viable but more scientifically useful as well.
Better yet, make a university to research the creationist evidence he is presenting.
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 01:30
by Cabbage
Also its not just Americans that believe in creationism so lets spread the nashing of teeth around eh?
True, but it is where this new wave of creationism bollocks (bible belt?) is coming from, i would remove my children (if i had any) from any school if i found out they were peddling this muck.
I don't know of any european country that allows somthing like this to be tuaght as fact in a public school..
And no, im not attacking america etc, i'm just having a rant a problem i see there, i be just as pissed (more so infact) if it was happening in the U.K...
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 02:12
by Fanger
The bulk of americans agree with you.. unfortunately the nutjobs are concentrated in groups and thus there is no one to reasonably object.. and we also have that little problem of freedom of religion, and the freedom of speech and so forth.. so while its sad, really nothing can be done about it, and honestly wed be hypocritical if we did..
However.. Id like to point out the retarded Muslims over in the middle east killing eachother over a split in their religion which occured because of a argument over political succession.. that is at least as silly as dissuading evolution..
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 02:35
by BlackLiger
Fanger wrote:The bulk of americans agree with you.. unfortunately the nutjobs are concentrated in groups and thus there is no one to reasonably object.. and we also have that little problem of freedom of religion, and the freedom of speech and so forth.. so while its sad, really nothing can be done about it, and honestly wed be hypocritical if we did..
However.. Id like to point out the retarded Muslims over in the middle east killing eachother over a split in their religion which occured because of a argument over political succession.. that is at least as silly as dissuading evolution..
*points at Ireland*
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 03:20
by Zoombie
Forboding Angel wrote:It's privatelt funded. The guy can spend it on whatever the hell he wants and tell you to go screw yourself. It's his money. And you have the audacity to tell him how he should spend his money?
Freedom of speech is fun! He has the freedom to have his opinion...and inversely,
I have the right (some would say duty) to make fun of his opinion.
This 'museum' is little more than looking at evidence and saying 'No I don't think it happened that way'
Really. I mean really. This guy thinks the earth is 5,000 years old and Adam and Eve spent their time frolicking with DINASAURS! Believing in god is perfectly fine. Perfectly fine...as a matter of fact believing in God has driven people to great act's of kindness and goodness. But ignoring facts, using poor science and being an idiot are NEVER acceptable to me. As an Atheist I believe in science, and this TWIT using science in this perverted way makes me as mad as any good Christian who hears about people using religion as a poor excuse to be incredibly crappy to one another.
Posted: 14 Nov 2006, 03:24
by Zoombie
Snipawolf wrote:Creationalism!? PAH! What a load of BS... Honestly, what caused the big bang that started Earth? NOTHING! God did, or Allah, or Buddah, or whomever you believe in! Seriously... We may have evolved from primates, but it was God's Will that made us!
Also, just to nit pick, but the big bang as theroised started the 'universe' as a whole, not the earth in particular. The earth, as modern scientests theroize (theory: As in not PROVEN to be right. They still might be wrong), started when bits of dust and rock slowly drifted together thanks to gravity. As the rock got bigger and bigger, it had more and more gravity and there fore attracted more and more rocks untill it formed a planet somewhat simmaler to Mercury, which then cooled slowly and then <removed by censor> followed by <removed by censor> and then <removed by censor> and here we are!
Posted: 15 Nov 2006, 04:18
by SpikedHelmet
I once knew a Christian that didn't believe in dinosaurs.
Posted: 15 Nov 2006, 04:22
by mehere101
I don't even see that as being possible from any perspective... Please, pity them for me and put them into a mental ward