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Is it any good?

Probably not.

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Well they are cloning FF and opera features. Still I don't see a reason to use IE7 and ditch FF/opera/random browser here except netscape.
From what I have read it will run on WinXP/Vista only and I don't feel like downgrading to XP only to test IE7.

It is, but the Firefox fanboys will say you're not allowed to have an opinion if you say so. Firefox fanboys are scary, scary people.

But if Internet Explorer 7 is a browser for you depends on what features you need from a browser, of course. And how much configuring you want to do.

Since you haven't said what you want from a browser, I'm going to assume you mean "is it any good" in comparison to Internet Explorer 6, not other browsers. Or you're a troll. Whichever it is. So.. It has support for RSS feeds now (which Firefox doesn't have). And better support for certain web standards, which won't matter to you if you're not writing web pages. And tabs. Increased security of course.

LOL Increased Security of course. For Mycrosoft of course... This Time they will get there Money for Secure... the Spyware.dll has been completely rewritten with only safety and comfort in mind ..

ZellSF wrote: Increased security of course.

Dude, we can't take you seriously with comments like this.

As for being a FF fanboi, nope not me. I run IE 6.0, Mozilla 1.7x, SeaMonkey and Firefox 1.5 with several extensions.

The only reason I keep IE is because there are certain ActiveX controls I need for communicating with security equipment. Mozilla is what I prefer. And Firefox is what I am slowly moving to.

However the writing is on the wall. Firefox = way of the future on a PC. Especially now that you can run IE Tabs in Firefox (except Linux, sorry).

And as for RSS feeds, have you seen all the extensions available for Firefox? Typically for a customer I install; No Script, FasterFox, AdBlock Plus, FiltersetG, ForecastFox, IE Tabs. With this config and proper knowledge of how NoScript works if the standard user doesn't have root access it's almost impossible to junk of that machine

(note: I said almost impossible).

PicassoCT wrote:LOL Increased Security of course. For Mycrosoft of course... This Time they will get there Money for Secure... the Spyware.dll has been completely rewritten with only safety and comfort in mind ..

There's no security issues in Internet Explorer 7 any good user can't avoid.

You hardly can blame Microsoft because idiots are using their products. If you cared about security, you would use Opera over Firefox anyway.

Opera works with activeX, but has higer security then both Firefox and IE.

Wow. You can't take me seriously because I say Internet Explorer 7 has increased security?

You can't take me seriously because I say facts? You can't take anyone who disagrees with you seriously then, I assume? Because that's certainly what it looks like.

However the writing is on the wall. Firefox = way of the future on a PC. Especially now that you can run IE Tabs in Firefox (except Linux, sorry).

Running Internet Explorer in a Firefox tab doesn't give me any of the features I might want from Internet Explorer though.

And as for RSS feeds, have you seen all the extensions available for Firefox? Typically for a customer I install; No Script, FasterFox, AdBlock Plus, FiltersetG, ForecastFox, IE Tabs. With this config and proper knowledge of how NoScript works if the standard user doesn't have root access it's almost impossible to junk of that machine

Here, you present the issue of how much time someone wants to configure their browser. Internet Explorer 7 has RSS support by default, that is an advantage it has.


Oh, and before any of you might want to call me an Internet Explorer fanboy, I use Camino on my iBook, K-Meleon on my main computer and Firefox at school. Nothing else. I'm just sick of Firefox fanboys.

ZellSF wrote:It has support for RSS feeds now (which Firefox doesn't have)

Not built in but there are numerous plugins for it, Wizz RSS for instance which adds a toolbar. Thunderbird supports it native as well but this is not about email clients.

I'm not a Firefox fanboy if you wanted to say that (which you probably didn't) but I prefer FF over Opera or IE6 and most certainly over IE7 for said reasons. It sure will be better than IE6, IE6 is a huge security hole for users that don't have a clue of what they are doing (i.e. my mom). It was the reason why my mom's laptop AND PC was full of trojans and it took a good deal of my MY time to get rid of them.
That's probably one of the reasons why people are biased when it comes to MS and browsers.

Anyway let's just wait on people who actually tried IE7, there was a beta test wasn't it?

the final is out now... thats why i posted, i thought everbody would know.

I do know the final is out.

As for RSS: Internet Explorer 7 has it built in. No configuration time. Just use it. In Firefox, you'd have to Google for an extension, find that extension, allow that extension to download and install then restart your browser.

Sure, both have RSS, but not everyone wants to waste time configuring their browser to be something that another browser with zero configuration time already is.

ZellSF wrote: Running Internet Explorer in a Firefox tab doesn't give me any of the features I might want from Internet Explorer though.

It runs internet explorer in a tab inside of Firefox. But whatever is fine for you. I'm glad you are happy.

Just don't tell me how wonderful is the security inside of any microsoft product. I have to keep their steaming pile of cow dung running every day. This is what I find laughable. Anyway, I don't care to argue about it. I was merely poking fun at Micro$oft.

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I've been sued by Microsoft and all I got was this lousy signature...

Its not to shabby. Its pretty much Firefox the Windows editon. Except because I dont like fire fox (Dam tabed brosing). Which is odd because tabed brosing in IE7 works way more like I want it to. Which is also odd because there preetty much the same... but meh. for some reason IE feels better.

This is coming from someone that does not like Windows strangle hold on the world of IT, so its not like Im a gates fanboy or anthing. I just prefer IE.

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Risasi wrote:

ZellSF wrote: Running Internet Explorer in a Firefox tab doesn't give me any of the features I might want from Internet Explorer though.

It runs internet explorer in a tab inside of Firefox. But whatever is fine for you. I'm glad you are happy.

Just don't tell me how wonderful is the security inside of any microsoft product.

90% of the world uses Internet Explorer, of course there's more known security holes. That doesn't mean the product is insecure compared to Firefox though. That's just wild guessing from the Firefox side.

If you cared about security, Opera would be your primary browser anyway. You know, Opera also has less users.

Think there might be a relation there?


And as said, Microsoft can't be blamed because stupid people use their products. Really, that's almost blaming the victim.

Microsoft is hardly a victim.

If anything they are trying to improve their image since BillG sold out and the .gov bought up the company. So it could launder it's drug money. :tongue planted firmly in cheek:

Anyway, you missed the point yet again. I don't care. Run whatever you want. If IE or Opera give you a feel happy Teletubbies buzz, good for you. Simply put though, due to the modularity of FF it will alway be inherently more secure than IE (unless you put in a crapload of extensions).
IE is a bloated tapeworm, trying to allow for all sorts of functionality. And most of the time MS is trying to add all their MS proprietary crap. AND this is where it always falls flat on it's face in the security department. Heck you can ever really remove IE. It's STILL part of the OS, even though they got sued and lost.

You do have a point though that some of it's security holes are because it is the major browser most use. Thus more market share for hackers.

As to Opera I can't really speak to it since it's been about six years since I last tried to run it. I might have to give it a shot again. If it could run the activeX controls I need for monitor remote security systems I might consider running it. Otherwise if I need functionality generally I run IE in a tab inside of FF.

Of course IE7 has increased security. Takes only one patched exploit to qualify for that label.

And I think most web designers appreciate that they heavily unbroke IE's website rendering.

Risasi wrote:Microsoft is hardly a victim.

If anything they are trying to improve their image

They are getting that image destroyed by stupid people. I'd call that being a victim, but I only said almost, noticed that?

Simply put though, due to the modularity of FF it will alway be inherently more secure than IE

What. That's just false. How modular it has has no effect on how secure it is.

IE is a bloated tapeworm, trying to allow for all sorts of functionality. And most of the time MS is trying to add all their MS proprietary crap

Must be why they have meetings with the Opera and Firefox guys

IE 7 is like Firefox, but ugly and with worse CSS support.