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Oooh joy.... Huston, we MAY have a problem
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 20:33
by BlackLiger
Well, as an avid fan of HALO in the sense of go around killing aliens, and a fan of C&C generals for much the same reason, except with just all humans, I was obviously a fan of the Halogen mod for Generals.
However, I have been told recently that they receved a cease and desist order from Microsoft about HaloGen. They have therefore closed down the mod, despite it being not for profit.
If this is happening to free, not for profit mods, what is the future for Spring while it continues to use OTA stuff in it?
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 20:48
by hrmph
Isn't this an MTR
The fastest solution is to not include XTA in the default installation. There are several non-ta mods in development that could be bundled with spring instead. Besides you have to own OTA to legally play XTA/AA. Doesn't seem like much of a problem at all.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 20:53
by Egarwaen
This is Microsoft dealing with a mod based on a property that's pretty much the only thing the XBox has going for it. Of course they're going to gib it.
Whoever the hell owns the TA license now probably doesn't give a damn about it. It's a ten-year-old game, any attempts at making a sequel will be eclipsed by Supreme Commander, so there's no money at risk.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 21:08
by mehere101
I'm not sure about OTA, its very old now. I don't think Cavedog entertainment even exists now. Halo I can understand, as microsoft is not yet done releasing Halo sequels.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 21:32
by esteroth12
Doesn't Atari own OTA now?
e: damn, i was looking forward to that mod
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 21:32
by Decimator
E&E just needs some non-copyrighted textures and it'll be good to go.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 21:38
by j5mello
Yes Halogen was given a C&D and is offically shutdown.
Infogrames actually owns the IP now as Atari sold it to them.
Yes E&E needs custom textures though i think it also needs new scripts???
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 21:39
by Decimator
The scripts would be taken care of whenever the devs get LUA working properly.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 21:40
by j5mello
true true but thats a big whenever
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 22:14
by Snipawolf
Microsoft is a load of bull...
C&D... Yeah right..
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 22:33
by ILMTitan
j5mello wrote:Infogrames actually owns the IP now as Atari sold it to them.
I thought Infogrames purchused the name Atari and then renamed themselves.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 23:31
by Drone_Fragger
Correct.
The TA licence is worth 3 million dollars or something. Atari will sell it any time soon, because they have no monies. lolz.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 23:41
by aGorm
Lets inseted hope they just disolve and the TA brand is released to the public domain or somthing like that...
aGorm
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 00:17
by SinbadEV
maybe they'll sell it to Valve and valve will hire away all our best mappers, modders, devs and artists and a year later release "Total Annihilation: The New Birth of War", an RTS based on the Source Engine.
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 00:36
by Aun
Apparently the source engine is horrible for RPGs and RTSs...
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 00:43
by j5mello
would make sense seeing as the base game for it is a shooter...
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 01:32
by Snipawolf
lol, that would suck...
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 02:05
by Caydr
Wasn't there an RPG/RTS hybrid.. uh... something about.... aliens.....
natural... Natural Selection. But I guess that wasn't really for souce... yet...
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 02:24
by j5mello
Yeah NS was a combo and there will be one for source as well. Their is also the Empires mod for HL2 which is a hybrid in the same sense.
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 03:56
by Das Bruce
Aun wrote:Apparently the source engine is horrible for RPGs and RTSs...
What about Dark Messiah?