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The Ultimate Guide to Spring
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 10:49
by imbaczek
Perhaps the best Spring guide (any mod, really!) ever:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17405/17 ... 7405-h.htm
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 10:50
by NOiZE
moved to off-topic
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 10:51
by Das Bruce
Sorry but you fail for many reasons.
The first being spring doesn't have a hundredth the complexity of real war, and secondly all that book contains is common sense or out dated strategies.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 11:01
by imbaczek
Common sense which many people seem not to have

Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 11:23
by Ishach
Das Bruce wrote:Sorry but you fail for many reasons.
all that book contains is common sense or out dated strategies.
Mark this day on your calenders folks, internet user "Das Bruce" has uncovered that this book that is still being published more than 2 millenia after its writing and having had its ideas applied to fields from buisness through to politics is nothing more than common sense and outdated strategies!
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 11:29
by Ishach
Sun Tzu wrote:The general who is skilled in defense hides in the
most secret recesses of the earth; he who is skilled in
attack flashes forth from the topmost heights of heaven.
Thus on the one hand we have ability to protect ourselves;
on the other, a victory that is complete.
My favourite paragraph
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 11:32
by Das Bruce
Ishach wrote:Das Bruce wrote:Sorry but you fail for many reasons.
all that book contains is common sense or out dated strategies.
Mark this day on your calenders folks, internet user "Das Bruce" has uncovered that this book that is still being published more than 2 millenia after its writing and having had its ideas applied to fields from buisness through to politics is nothing more than common sense and outdated strategies!
I could argue back but I don't want to go bringing subjects into this that should stay off gaming forums.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 16:01
by SinbadEV
Honestly Das Bruce is right, it's all common sense... unfortunately common sense isn't all that commom, and having said that particular cliche, I would like to point out that it's true, most people are pretty dumb, and on the other side of things, it helps to see good ideas put down and codified in front of you, gives you a good view of the big picture. I suggest 1984 for a similar presentation of common knowlege presented in a cohesive manner that gives you a good "big picture" view.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 16:06
by Zoombie
People are more intellegent then people give them credit for. Its just the idiots stand out much better then the normal, every day type people.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 16:28
by SinbadEV
Zoombie wrote:People are more intellegent then people give them credit for. Its just the idiots stand out much better then the normal, every day type people.
I disagree, you are spoiled because you have surrounded yourself with intelligent people.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 16:31
by Min3mat
dunno...
Sun Tze's Art of War should be common ground for any real RTS player though, i mean what sort of noob doesn't know flanking and 'don't attack him if he is 4x your size, divert him or some shit' xD
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 19:29
by Weaver
The art of teaching is break down the subject in small enough steps, so the they seem obvious and common sensical. Once the steps are easy, the path is clear, and may be followed under the greatest adversity in the heat of battle. - Weaver Tzu 2006
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 19:42
by AF
Its apaprent when you read it but the cocnepts it teaches just wouldnt occur to the vast majority of people, nor do people truly understand these concepts potential and the way they can be applied.
Also, a lot of what sun tzu said has hidden meaning. Simply reading it isnt what your meant todo, your meant to think behind the words.
http://www.sonshi.com
Always go there for Sun Tzu art of war translation.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 22:25
by Dragon45
TAoW is one of the greatest and most influential books written, period. Every cadet at West Point, Annapolis, and the Air Force Academy (those are the elite US military training institutions btw) reads it. Most respected managers and businesspeople have read it, as well as many individuals studying game theory and the like.
For Bruce to take everything at face value and call it "out dated" takes stupid to a new plane of existence.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 22:35
by Erom
Didn't we like, have this exact thread a while back?
I'mna try to find it.