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Linux Packages
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 21:01
by hollowsoul
Just getting a poll of various package systems in use by your distro.
Just after did quick check & should be able to make a source rpm.
Still need to find docs on making a source debian package.
Anyway plz vote in poll which one your distro uses i.e deb / rpm / ebuild / other. If other plz post what it is thx
Plz Note the source packages will use the tagged releases source tarballs @ https://developer.berlios.de/project/sh ... up_id=4358
Havent checked if i can get rpms / deb to grab source files off svn yet
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 21:17
by hollowsoul
Rather not send tvo topic on setting up datadirs off topic
Source Packages instead of normal ones. Cause i dont have harddrive space / bandwidth / time. To build packages for every distro under the earth.
Source deb / Source rpm's will work for majority of distros. Less work to maintain a single deb & a single rpm. Only download for user is waiting till it compiles.
Its setup will be same as gentoo ebuilds
- Install into /usr/share/games/taspring-linux-<version>
Setup /etc/spring/datadir
Setup AI's confs
Add any missing files
Thats the basic idea
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 21:18
by clericvash
So the sourcefiles will do all that?
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 21:20
by hollowsoul
Yes its not hard todo.
Anyway i better get to update the gentoo ebuilds been putting it off
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 21:20
by AF
NTai in the 0.72 tagged release is XE7.5, which is very bad.
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 22:25
by hollowsoul
Last time i checked NTAI 9 didnt work for linux.
To busy to test it out recently & have yet to hear otherwise.
Besides there be a new tagged release for spring in around a month
Posted: 21 Aug 2006, 23:15
by AF
I dont know what happens with the svn build but the tagged release 0.72 should work fine as far as I know.
Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 00:02
by HAARP
As I said, it should suffice having only one package. They can be converted into each ohter with
alien
Re: Linux Packages
Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 06:26
by patmo98
I think everything on berlios has major sync problems with Linux. Take a look
here.
Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 08:52
by Tobi
HAARP, do you have experience with Alien, does it actually create quality packages?
patmo98, berlios is still used for source & data tarballs. (It has never been said we wouldn't use berlios anymore, only the SVN has moved.)
Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 14:32
by HAARP
Tobi wrote:HAARP, do you have experience with Alien, does it actually create quality packages?
Yup, works pretty good. It's designed to convert packages to deb, but it can output other formats, too. However, I've never tested this, but I think this shouldn't cause much of a problem.
The only thing is that there's a "Converted from blah by alien 8.xx" in the description of the new package. But every script, every file and every dependency will be in the new package. (Use -k -c)
Posted: 22 Aug 2006, 16:26
by clericvash
Sounds pretty could, i wouldn't mind a "Converted from blah by alien 8.xx" in the description, i would say if it works well it deserves to have credit :)
Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 16:09
by elim
This would be made so much easier, you you just had a tar.bz2 with precompiled binaries and (in a html file) instructions on how to play
Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 19:41
by Tobi
Proper packages are even better then that, both in userfriendly-ness and in maintainability.
Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 19:59
by own3d
Well this would be easy to do if you were going to do proper packages, it just means there is a generic linux install which can cater for everyone.
Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 20:11
by Tobi
Well you need to statically link and such, I don't think it's really easy.
(Read: I won't do it

)
Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 22:14
by hollowsoul
I agree with tvo here, i die before i attempt static compiles.
I mean how far do u go ? Do u assume user got recent branch of glibc or an old ? How about SDL ? Or u want everything in a big excutable file...
Which will just end up using more ram.
Its hell of alot easy to throw together a source package.
Not to mention u can use your disto package manager to uninstall it later on, or upgrade it when using a newer one. == alot more user friendly
Anyway i get around to in awhile. Got other things want to get done first.
Posted: 26 Aug 2006, 02:30
by jcnossen
I mean how far do u go ?
It probably ends with a spring live-cd
