Spring RTS Engine

ok, you know how you can squad a factory.. and the units it produces will be on that squad as well, well in taspring, when you select the squad , it selects the units and the factory(s) which then means you cant give the squad any orders besides move guard and patrol, which makes it cumbersome to automatically produce units on a squad. in original ta if you selected a squad that had factorys but no units on it, it would select the factory's, but if the squad had even 1 unit, it would select only the units, not the factory's, even tho they remained on the squad.

really? I remember using that to issue commands to factorys to build more of a unit type in OTA

Yeah someone patch that, it was a great feature!

i dont mean just selecting multiple, i mean the squads, and i went and tested it a few minutes ago in normal ta

+1

+1 for sure

1. I really like the fact that giving a command to a group gives the command to the factory as well. It means that my reinforcements are always on the way.

2. I agree that it is annoying when the context attack command does not come up because the factory is in the group. Other commands can be given manually. IIRC, though, the context attack command always works with combat units in the group in the SVN.

3. Selecting a group on TA did not select the factory, and giving context commands with a factory selected did not affect the factory, although giving explicit commands did.

You can just use the Selection Editor to set up a hotkey that removes buildings from the current selection.

Monolith wrote:You can just use the Selection Editor to set up a hotkey that removes buildings from the current selection.

yeah, but it'd be better (and I suggested this a while ago, getting a lot of 'someone write a patch' replies) if the default group select automatically didn't select buildings in a group (unless the group had only buildings) and then an alternative select (say, the OTA-style 'Alt + number' selection) included the buildings.

That way, if you just want to move the group around, you'd just press the number. If you wanted to move the group and have the building waypoint move with them, you'd select with Alt-number. Simple enough, right?

Why not just have it display all orders at least one of the selected units can execute and assign them only to the units that can do them?

This could be done with a groupAI

but, unless the groupai were automatically assigned to all factories, it would be a big pain.

No, you'd just assign it to the factory like you would a group, then when it builds, anything it builds is autoadded to the groupAI by spring.

How would you define the factory group num and the units group num? Maybe use the numer to toggle between factory and units? So 1 selects the units group and (e.g.) alt-1 is used to get the factory in the group?

I think either double or tripple clicking on a unit in a group selects the entire group so no need, that or clicking on it and pressing the select group command.

Of course that would mean you couldn't assign any other groupAIs to them.

At the moment there arent any others that would be affected, unless your troops where also metalmakers

Isn't there a hold formation groupAI?

Yes but it isnt as good as the line dragging feature of spring