Toxic ingame community will be the death of spring.
Posted: 15 May 2017, 20:13
There is a serious problem with bullying. A lot of us play spring to kick back and have fun. Outrageous levels of silliness is normal but in this case it descends into pure malice. The auto hosts are heavily abused by a clique of experienced players to bully people that are new or haven't been playing for a while or regularly. I've gone from being in the position of this needs more people I should try to help with that to this is not a game I would recommend people play because the established players are abusive and you wont have a pleasant time. Why would I invite someone new if I know they are going to be treated like shit?
This is a serious put off for anyone new to the game or returning. I don't have much free time and there's sometimes only one main game running. This game is dying because of a lack of new blood and the community is contributing to that. If you ban someone from the main autohost you pretty much deprive them of being able to play at all much of the time. I just finished work after some ridiculous tasks such as fixing a program with a hex editor because someone lost the source code and have a bit of spare time to play just a few games and the first thing into the game there is nothing but a flurry of abuse.
Recently I got banned from the main autohost because a core clique of regular players insist on harassing other players to the point that they can't play. It's not purely an autohost abuse problem. It's that you've allowed out of the few remaining holdouts a small group of people that are an exclusionary ingroup to dominate what's left of the ingame community.
You don't get any kind of reasonable attitudes or negotiation anymore. You just have players ganging up and demanding you go on this start spot or use this strategy declaring themselves all powerful and superior because of things like TS which some players really don't care about. It's no longer a cooperative game.
Other players keep screaming down my ear to do things and being really malicious in a number of ways. On one map someone took all of my mexes when I started a bit forward but with no chance of expansion leaving me with 2 mexes to his 5. These players simply wont let you just play and insist on being puppetmasters over other people. They constantly spam notices all over your base disrupting your field of thought and are never polite or reasonable. This also gets in the way of my build plan. It reaches the point you end up doing badly not because you're new but because people one your own team wont stop harassing you to the point of sabotage.
Three times now where I have had incidents in autohost where I didn't start it but because it's consensus based people just go with who or what they like. One time someone draws crap over my base and it escalates from there. Another time the player goes up an dguns me. Another time a player takes my spot after I already took it and readied then they move to kick me for it. There's a refusal to let people learn or improve. I haven't been playing much after years and years. I only just started recently. Since I started playing the levels of in game shitbaggery are greater than I have ever seen before.
I am an experienced veteran developer that might have ended up contributing to TA Spring but with this I am most likely going to instead throw in the towel and instead play supcom. I would like to keep playing but if there's constant abuse and the established players can't just play without getting in your face then it's a huge waste of time. A lot of us aren't students anymore and don't have unlimited time to throw away on bullshit like this.
You might take the position that this is not a problem for you to in anyway be engaged in but if you don't sort out this kind of abuse you're not going to have an easy time growing the community and not only will you lose players but you will lose potential contributors.
This is a serious put off for anyone new to the game or returning. I don't have much free time and there's sometimes only one main game running. This game is dying because of a lack of new blood and the community is contributing to that. If you ban someone from the main autohost you pretty much deprive them of being able to play at all much of the time. I just finished work after some ridiculous tasks such as fixing a program with a hex editor because someone lost the source code and have a bit of spare time to play just a few games and the first thing into the game there is nothing but a flurry of abuse.
Recently I got banned from the main autohost because a core clique of regular players insist on harassing other players to the point that they can't play. It's not purely an autohost abuse problem. It's that you've allowed out of the few remaining holdouts a small group of people that are an exclusionary ingroup to dominate what's left of the ingame community.
You don't get any kind of reasonable attitudes or negotiation anymore. You just have players ganging up and demanding you go on this start spot or use this strategy declaring themselves all powerful and superior because of things like TS which some players really don't care about. It's no longer a cooperative game.
Other players keep screaming down my ear to do things and being really malicious in a number of ways. On one map someone took all of my mexes when I started a bit forward but with no chance of expansion leaving me with 2 mexes to his 5. These players simply wont let you just play and insist on being puppetmasters over other people. They constantly spam notices all over your base disrupting your field of thought and are never polite or reasonable. This also gets in the way of my build plan. It reaches the point you end up doing badly not because you're new but because people one your own team wont stop harassing you to the point of sabotage.
Three times now where I have had incidents in autohost where I didn't start it but because it's consensus based people just go with who or what they like. One time someone draws crap over my base and it escalates from there. Another time the player goes up an dguns me. Another time a player takes my spot after I already took it and readied then they move to kick me for it. There's a refusal to let people learn or improve. I haven't been playing much after years and years. I only just started recently. Since I started playing the levels of in game shitbaggery are greater than I have ever seen before.
I am an experienced veteran developer that might have ended up contributing to TA Spring but with this I am most likely going to instead throw in the towel and instead play supcom. I would like to keep playing but if there's constant abuse and the established players can't just play without getting in your face then it's a huge waste of time. A lot of us aren't students anymore and don't have unlimited time to throw away on bullshit like this.
You might take the position that this is not a problem for you to in anyway be engaged in but if you don't sort out this kind of abuse you're not going to have an easy time growing the community and not only will you lose players but you will lose potential contributors.