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BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 08 Mar 2017, 23:47
by Ares
Within the last 6 months started getting freezes that last 1 second every 5-10minutes in ba games, especially noticable when zooming. It really ruins my BA experience.
Does anyone else notice freezing that wasn't there before. Do you know the solution?
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[f=0074694] Warning: [Watchdog] Hang detection triggered for Spring 103.0.
[f=0074694] Warning: (in thread: main)
[f=0074694] Warning: DLL information:
[f=0074694] Error: 0x00400000 spring
[f=0074694] Error: 0x777d0000 ntdll
[f=0074694] Error: 0x768d0000 KERNEL32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x75230000 KERNELBASE
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76ca0000 ADVAPI32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x5ac80000 GLU32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76a10000 IMAGEHLP
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76bd0000 msvcrt
[f=0074694] Error: 0x5afa0000 OPENGL32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x75490000 SHELL32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76d20000 USER32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x747b0000 WINMM
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76fd0000 WS2_32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x10000000 DevIL
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6b800000 OpenAL32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x70780000 vorbisfile
[f=0074694] Error: 0x62e80000 zlib1
[f=0074694] Error: 0x70e40000 libfreetype-6
[f=0074694] Error: 0x65180000 libfontconfig-1
[f=0074694] Error: 0x62aa0000 glew32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6c740000 SDL2
[f=0074694] Error: 0x772c0000 sechost
[f=0074694] Error: 0x75130000 RPCRT4
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76a30000 GDI32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x5ab90000 DDRAW
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76750000 combase
[f=0074694] Error: 0x776b0000 SHLWAPI
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74400000 WINMMBASE
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76fc0000 NSI
[f=0074694] Error: 0x5f330000 MSVCP80
[f=0074694] Error: 0x64980000 MSVCR80
[f=0074694] Error: 0x774e0000 ole32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x68140000 ogg
[f=0074694] Error: 0x64cc0000 vorbis
[f=0074694] Error: 0x68f40000 libexpat-1
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76e80000 IMM32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76ec0000 OLEAUT32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74f40000 VERSION
[f=0074694] Error: 0x751f0000 SspiCli
[f=0074694] Error: 0x5ab80000 DCIMAN32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x770c0000 cfgmgr32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x743a0000 DEVOBJ
[f=0074694] Error: 0x75370000 MSCTF
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74fb0000 CRYPTBASE
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74f50000 bcryptPrimitives
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6a520000 nvapi
[f=0074694] Error: 0x77100000 SETUPAPI
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74310000 SHCORE
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74a60000 profapi
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6bac0000 uxtheme
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6ab90000 dwmapi
[f=0074694] Error: 0x51a20000 nvoglv32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74a90000 WTSAPI32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x77310000 WINTRUST
[f=0074694] Error: 0x77350000 CRYPT32
[f=0074694] Error: 0x75210000 MSASN1
[f=0074694] Error: 0x73790000 ntmarta
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74d10000 kernel.appcore
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6f490000 powrprof
[f=0074694] Error: 0x74230000 WINSTA
[f=0074694] Error: 0x76b40000 clbcatq
[f=0074694] Error: 0x64690000 shfolder
[f=0074694] Error: 0x737e0000 MMDevApi
[f=0074694] Error: 0x56450000 dsound
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6f4d0000 AUDIOSES
[f=0074694] Error: 0x56500000 dinput8
[f=0074694] Error: 0x73980000 HID
[f=0074694] Error: 0x564f0000 XInput1_4
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6f6e0000 mswsock
[f=0074694] Error: 0x6edc0000 dbghelp
[f=0074694] Warning: Stacktrace (main) for Spring 103.0:
[f=0074694] Warning: (0) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll [0x0000B332]
[f=0074694] Warning: (1) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll [0x0000B2E4]
[f=0074694] Warning: (2) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0069AEAF]
[f=0074694] Warning: (3) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0069B26F]
[f=0074694] Warning: (4) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0069BC1E]
[f=0074694] Warning: (5) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0071297A]
[f=0074694] Warning: (6) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00718379]
[f=0074694] Warning: (7) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00718F92]
[f=0074694] Warning: (8) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0042E3CB]
[f=0074694] Warning: (9) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00779A7E]
[f=0074694] Warning: (10) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00780D89]
[f=0074694] Warning: (11) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x007572C6]
[f=0074694] Warning: (12) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00D31834]
[f=0074694] Warning: (13) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00401402]
[f=0074694] Warning: (14) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL [0x00017C04]
[f=0074694] Warning: (15) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll [0x0005AB8F]
[f=0074694] Warning: (16) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll [0x0005AB5A]
[f=0074694] Warning: Stacktrace (audio) for Spring 103.0:
[f=0074694] Warning: (0) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll [0x0003C7EC]
[f=0074694] Warning: (1) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL [0x00017B89]
[f=0074694] Warning: (2) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00922912]
[f=0074694] Warning: (3) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0080760C]
[f=0074694] Warning: (4) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00B65297]
[f=0074694] Warning: (5) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x00B5947D]
[f=0074694] Warning: (6) C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe [0x0091F5D6]
[f=0074694] Warning: (7) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNEL32.DLL [0x00017C04]
[f=0074694] Warning: (8) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll [0x0005AB8F]
[f=0074694] Warning: (9) C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll [0x0005AB5A]
[f=0074825] [Noitcelfer] afus field*
[f=0075099] <Trinity> no friend
[f=0075330] Spectator vscout left the game: normal quit
[f=0075337] <Trinity> my 8 afus
[f=0075386] <Trinity> sad
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 07:08
by Forboding Angel
[f=0074694] Warning: [Watchdog] Hang detection triggered for Spring 103.0.
Stop using a potato.
In springsettings:
hangtimeout = -10
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 11:29
by Floris
he has a 6700k kind of potato though
...oh and stop using an admin account as user
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 12:23
by Silentwings
I also get these short freezes when zooming in/out late on in a big game, on both my (i7 + reasonably high end mobile gfx) laptops - worse on the AMD one than the nVidia one. It seems unrelated to the level of stress from non-Spring stuff on the machine at the time.
I think it may be related to when the view changes from showing unit icons versus models versus sprites. One obvious thing to do is /give 1000 armflash on an empty map and see if just zooming in/out in that situation causes a hang. I'm afraid I haven't been playing enough to care about investigating it.
My theory appears to be supported by translating the stacktrace above:
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module address file line
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll 0x0000B332 ?? 0
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll 0x0000B2E4 ?? 0
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0069AEAF rts/Rendering/FarTextureHandler.cpp 318
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0069B26F rts/Rendering/FarTextureHandler.cpp 133
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0069BC1E rts/Rendering/FarTextureHandler.cpp 260
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0071297A rts/Rendering/UnitDrawer.cpp 378
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00718379 rts/Rendering/WorldDrawer.cpp 304
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00718F92 rts/Rendering/WorldDrawer.cpp 239
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0042E3CB rts/Game/Game.cpp 1213
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00779A7E rts/System/SpringApp.cpp 984
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00780D89 rts/System/SpringApp.cpp 1016
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x007572C6 rts/System/Main.cpp 48
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00D31834 rts/System/Main.cpp 107
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00401402 /opt/mxe/tmp-gcc/gcc-4.8.1/mirror-mingw-w64-c28722c/trunk/mingw-w64-crt/crt/crtexe.c 317
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0x0005AB8F ?? 0
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0x0005AB5A ?? 0
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0x0003C7EC ?? 0
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00922912 thread.cpp ?
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0080760C rts/System/Sound/OpenAL/Sound.cpp 379
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00B65297 /slave/mingwlibs/include/boost/function/function_template.hpp 154
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x00B5947D /slave/mingwlibs/include/boost/function/function_template.hpp 767
C:\Users\Admin\Documents\My Games\Spring\engine\103.0\spring.exe 0x0091F5D6 thread.cpp ?
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0x0005AB8F ?? 0
C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0x0005AB5A ??
-> UnitDrawer.cpp/FarTextureHandler.cpp
Not sure when it started, maybe I always had them in 103, maybe a recent (~3-9 months ago maybe) BA related change that starting straining the engine to hard. Bandwidth into the gfx card would be my first (uneducated) guess, although maybe msvcrt.dll suggests something different. Happy hunting
hangtimeout = -10
Mostly pointless - it will do nothing to change the hangs, only suppress the stacktraces (which you might be glad of, but once every few mins was not worth the trouble for me) and that might make the problem harder for devs to diagnose.
@Ares: Please pastebin infologs, and better to provide full infologs, they are usually more useful. I guess there is nothing you (personally) can change to solve the issue.
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 19:37
by sprunk
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 19:46
by Ares
Silentwings wrote:I think it may be related to when the view changes from showing unit icons versus models versus sprites
Good observation Bluestone, I use 188 for Unit LOD distance and 184 for unit icon distance. I have always played this way so my units become icons without much zoom out - like Supreme Commander strategic icons. Within the last 8 months I was able to play massive 8v8 DSD games with none of this freezing effect.
Other players have also complained about it, so maybe something changed.
Any suggestions as to how I could change Unit LOD distance and Unit icon distance values to improve the situation?
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 21:45
by Silentwings
You could set both values so high that you never see icons, that probably works - but then ofc you won't see icons (which I dislike more than the odd hang). Other than that, wait for an engine update.
Thanks to Kloot for fixing it :)
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 22:09
by Forboding Angel
Silentwings wrote:
hangtimeout = -10
Mostly pointless - it will do nothing to change the hangs, only suppress the stacktraces (which you might be glad of, but once every few mins was not worth the trouble for me) and that might make the problem harder for devs to diagnose.
Writing the stack traces in many cases can be far worse than the hiccups they report.
A hiccup can be .5 seconds, writing the stack trace can take up to 30 seconds, all of which is time that the game remains frozen.
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 19:02
by Ares
Until recently stacktraces were never an issue.
Changing unit LOD distance to maximum alleviated the problem (thx stacktrace), icon distance can be set to anything.
Now my units are rendered all the time, but at least it doesn't seem to freeze anymore.
Re: BA Freezing problem.
Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 19:21
by Silentwings
icon distance can be set to anything.
It's just because with unit LOD set on max, the value of unit icon dist won't do anything - they normally function as a pair. Glad the semi-workaround works.