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My website...

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 09:47
by Das Bruce
Been doing it for a couple of weeks, just wanted some opinions/suggestions.

Orriginally it was called the Second best page in the universe, then it turned out there already was a second... and a third... and a fourth, so I settled for...

A page with a rating near the top of all those in the universe

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 13:03
by Das Bruce
Heh, I added 11 Bruce Campbell quotes for all you ED fans out there, ie zoombie.

Could anyone tell me some others?

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 13:46
by SwiftSpear
Doesn't look too bad. I don't know how it took you a couple weeks to do though :P

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 15:02
by aGorm
that took you a few weeks?? come on... i did this in an hour. http://www.onebob.co.uk/darren/justanotherstory/ and admitadly i havnt added anything cause i realised i want to change my sites look (again... for anyone that knows i manage to start making about 1 site a week befor deciding i want somthing cooler... thats prob the thurvest ive got in mounths though so i actully uploaded it to run by some mates... and yes the flash site at the root of /darren is about 2 years old, so dont complane if you go back to taht either.)

I think you despratly need someone to replace your place holder images...

However the content is cool enough...

aGorm

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 17:43
by Maelstrom
I remade his site for him with CSS and <div> tags in about 20 minutes. But he didnt like it. It looked EXACTLY the same, plus it rendered correctly in IE, but apparently it talkes longr to load...

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 18:37
by aGorm
Maybe I should take a look at fixing some of the code so it always lays out correctly at home... And maybe fix some new graphics for it.

aGorm

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 18:38
by FizWizz
my thoughts: It looks like it can use a little more time and a little more content before it is really fair to judge it.
+1 point for not ripping off Maddox's color scheme to the T

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 22:37
by Das Bruce
I mean I've been tinkering for a couple of weeks, I'm new to this whole web development thing.

And Maelstroms css version increased the file size for images exponentially, a very bad thing on my limited bandwidth.

Also cheers to Alantai for the name thing.

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 22:43
by AF
exponentially? mwha? how does that work?

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 22:51
by aGorm
WHat... that makes no sences... css does not alter file sizes at all... you must be confused.

aGorm

Posted: 13 Dec 2005, 23:32
by Das Bruce
My design uses lots of smaller images stretched to form the whole design, but because of the way he coded it he had to stick alot of them together to form larger images.

http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/maelstrom/index.html

As you can see the whole top banner is an image rather than 3 or so border images and some text. Which increases the size from 400 bytes to 32 KILObytes.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 05:53
by Maelstrom
Well, admitedly, that top banner could have been done better. But the rest of it was good. And its not like 32 Kilobytes is big. This site have way more than that in pictures. Plus, with the saving in the amount of text that was being sent if the CSS was done properly (I had the CSS in the HTML of the page, not linked seperatley), you would end up saving space after people surf your site for a while.

Just reading that has made me want to make your site again, with a very small file size.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 06:49
by Zoombie
I like your Londen Burning rant.

Very logical and well thought out, and less "GRRRR ARG IM ANGRY" rant

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 14:22
by aGorm
To be sure... I wondering why the HELL your using Div's and css (Maelstrom not bruce) when thats such a friging simple table layout. You could have just used a table!! and the top banner could just be a table in a table! Nesting a few tables will not affect perfomance.

Also... is there actully any scripting in that? Is there a database behind there thats dynamicly adding the news in or are you just hand balling it?

aGorm

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 15:02
by Zenka
Das Bruce wrote:My design uses lots of smaller images stretched to form the whole design, but because of the way he coded it he had to stick alot of them together to form larger images.

http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/maelstrom/index.html

As you can see the whole top banner is an image rather than 3 or so border images and some text. Which increases the size from 400 bytes to 32 KILObytes.
You're kidding, it took me 15 sec to load. And it all looks empty, even the parts that in this stage isn't suppose to. (The banner)

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 16:09
by FizWizz
Zenka wrote:
Das Bruce wrote:My design uses lots of smaller images stretched to form the whole design, but because of the way he coded it he had to stick alot of them together to form larger images.

http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/maelstrom/index.html

As you can see the whole top banner is an image rather than 3 or so border images and some text. Which increases the size from 400 bytes to 32 KILObytes.
You're kidding, it took me 15 sec to load. And it all looks empty, even the parts that in this stage isn't suppose to. (The banner)
I'm getting the same thing from that link

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 23:05
by Das Bruce
Zenka, FizWizz, what are you guys talking about?

http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/maelstrom/index.html is maelstroms attempt to convince me to use div's.

http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/ is the actual website.

Posted: 14 Dec 2005, 23:15
by Caydr
DIV tags are the spawn of satan.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 00:25
by FizWizz
What I'm saying is that the website http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/maelstrom/index.html has absolutely no graphics in it. I realize as well that it is not your main site, while http://dasbruce.darkstars.co.uk/index.php is.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 00:43
by Das Bruce
It does have graphics in it, almost 100X the size in graphics of the proper one.