Spring RTS Engine

"[23:59:01] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> just a "slight" concern, theres no real change log posting for the new "patches"
[23:59:12] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> or what kloot is trying to aim for
[23:59:13] <[PRO]Jools> i know
[23:59:21] <[PRO]Jools> and i dont like all the patches either
[23:59:30] <[PRO]Jools> there is one in the latest patch
[23:59:37] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> noruas kinda went down that rout, and he got allot of heat for it
[00:00:01] <[PRO]Jools> what route? to not have a changelog?
[00:00:32] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> every main modder has his own ideals for xta, ive no proplem with that. but it would be good for the community to have a little debate about it
[00:01:04] <[PRO]Jools> http://pastebin.com/5utggUc8
[00:01:12] <[PRO]Jools> i know
[00:01:18] <[PRO]Jools> but no one writes on forums
[00:01:27] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> no, noruas went ahead and added stuff without letting peeps know about it. such as the landmine sweeper etc.. not to speak ill of noruas, hes one of the few people i truly admire
[00:01:46] <[PRO]Jools> deadnight does that too
[00:03:10] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> maybe people would write if more was posted up for them to speak an opinion on. i mean, its good to at least READ about the next patch, before it happens. so if i say for example, REALLY dont like an idea...like when dnw made the llt n gaat be able to hit airplains, i could of wrote about how i disliked it. there by myself having a voice on the matter..
[00:03:33] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> being a modder, boarders into politics some times haha
[00:03:37] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> stupid but true
[00:04:38] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> we have so few players left now a days, it would be a shame to loose them to silly little changes that they wernt consulted about...
[00:04:58] <[PRO]Jools> yes
[00:05:00] <[PRO]Jools> true
[00:05:05] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> im NOT bitching, dont get me wrong, i truly appreciate all the hard work that goes into xta
[00:05:23] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> but its a delicate fabric of a slim society
[00:05:30] <[PRO]Jools> yes
[00:06:25] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> i mean it man, u guys do good work that i personally aspire to. but PLEASE have a word with kloot about changes and general direction of the mod
[00:06:39] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> ive been playing this mod for almost 7 years....
[00:06:43] <[PRO]Jools> yeah we should
[00:06:54] <[PRO]Jools> the general direction is changing all the time
[00:07:05] <[PRO]Jools> i dont know if kloot or DNW is the modder now
[00:07:15] <[PRO]Jools> i guess it depends
[00:07:23] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> it would be a tragedy to see it go coz of old school players set in their ways of balace atc..
[00:08:45] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> well dnw hasent done anything for a while, so IM assuming its kloot. i dont have a problem with kloot....as long as he gets thats pathing system all 100% running lol, but i WISH he would make at least some effort to consult the community before experimenting with these "patches". u know what i mean ?
[00:09:07] <[PRO]Jools> yes
[00:09:18] <[PRO]Jools> well i dont like increased e cost of mines
[00:10:30] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> PERSONALLY i would like to see a little test patch where ak/pw had more dmg vs buildings, and hammer/thud had a more defined role against buildings and weaker vs units. but that entails armour bonuses, which xta has always been against. but PERSONALLY i think its a better way to go. but thats jut me
[00:11:00] <[PRO]Jools> maybe
[00:11:06] <[PRO]Jools> i dont know that part
[00:11:15] <[PRO]Jools> you have more experience with that
[00:12:17] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> mines are easy to counter, but slow game play ALLOT, so i see what his intention is, certainly. its a little unorthodox but a good EXPERIMENT. but it should be posted up, to see what players WANT. if they dont get what they WANT they wont play it = mod death
[00:12:46] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> i dont know about experience, but ive seen allot of shit go down, thats for sure
[00:12:49] <[PRO]Jools> some people want that
[00:12:59] <[PRO]Jools> but i think mines should be limited some other way
[00:13:18] <[PRO]Jools> like only let the minelayer build 5 a time and then have it need to rebuild them
[00:13:22] <[PRO]Jools> recharge w/e
[00:13:41] <[R0N1N]Shine_Gizmo> some do, but what about the others? they dont post because they dont feel like they are being listened to..... like i said, it boarders politics some times. which is silly but totally true
[00:14:06] <[PRO]Jools> yes
[00:14:31] <[PRO]Jools> anhyay
[00:14:39] <[PRO]Jools> gotta go sleeping
[00:14:42] <[PRO]Jools> see you!
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Dev's are gratifying their curiosity/ego by devving changes that are not necessary, and are certainly not based on the feedback of competitive 1v1.

Edit: Fyi I just logged into SL, and for literally the first time since 2005, or whenever the channel was founded, (to my knowledge) #XTA is empty. Sad. Face.

knorke wrote:

Edit: Fyi I just logged into SL, and for literally the first time since 2005, or whenever the channel was founded, (to my knowledge) #XTA is empty. Sad. Face.

when i logged in yesterday evening, there were 7 players in battleroom playing/starting game.
Might not be a game every day but often enough and spring was always about 50% idling 50% playing.

knorke wrote:

Edit: Fyi I just logged into SL, and for literally the first time since 2005, or whenever the channel was founded, (to my knowledge) #XTA is empty. Sad. Face.

when i logged in yesterday evening, there were 7 players in battleroom playing/starting game.
Might not be a game every day but often enough and spring was always about 50% idling 50% playing.

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:Com jerking off when idle was great....

knorke wrote:But one has to see that "gratifying curiosity/ego" is the only payment you get for working on spring. If people volunteer for that imo they have some right to make a silly animation for commander or adjust balance a bit.