Spring RTS Engine

After trying the demo I canceled the order at amazon.
Anyone actually liking it?

It sux? I was thinking about getting it.
Why is it bad?
I thought XCOM was always considered a worse version of Jagged alliance?
By the way,what games do you like Rattle?

I've only heard good things. Someone was just talking about losing sleep because they were up playing it so much... maybe they botched the demo?

I don't think the issues I have with it change in the full game

The good:
Sound, graphics! Looks brilliant, runs smooth on a 5 year old system.
General visual style

The bad:
The game restricts your freedom by a large deal.
Can't build your own base, at least in the beginning
Get line-fed silly missions instead of chasing UFOs like in the original
Can't shoot buildings to tiny bits
Your soldiers are tied to silly classes and have no inventory
Feels very very very consolish, like most games do nowadays

By the way,what games do you like Rattle?

The original X-COM and TFTD for example :-P

thank you for confirming my suspicion of the rape and dismemberment of a once beloved franchise

The bad:
The game restricts your freedom by a large deal.
Can't build your own base, at least in the beginning
Get line-fed silly missions instead of chasing UFOs like in the original
Can't shoot buildings to tiny bits
Your soldiers are tied to silly classes and have no inventory
Feels very very very consolish, like most games do nowadays

so pretty much most of the cool things about the original games have been removed... one of the appeals IMO of the original was how difficult and complicated it was

cant sell difficult stuff to console tards.. but look on the positive side, you also dont have to sell good stuff to the console tards. Just give them a sandbox and some ways to get mayhem out there system, and they ll be happy ever after. If you challenge the challenged with more then fucking the bulletholes in chesthighwalls, you are discriminating against a large part of todays audience.

Consoles ruin games...

rattle wrote:I don't think the issues I have with it change in the full game

The bad:
The game restricts your freedom by a large deal.
Can't build your own base, at least in the beginning
Get line-fed silly missions instead of chasing UFOs like in the original
Can't shoot buildings to tiny bits
Your soldiers are tied to silly classes and have no inventory
Feels very very very consolish, like most games do nowadays

I looked at a few reviews that mention the demo and early games, sound like the lame early missions and limited freedom you describe is the game easing people into the game and it opens up later... also I saw an entire review that seemed to be solely about how awesome the base building/managing system was so I'm guessing that was a demo issue too.

I was suspecting that but... what about laser sniping buildings to tiny bits and pieces????? What about throwing time bombs into the roofs of crash-landed UFOs???? Why u no time bombs? ;) I dont think so, game

I think it's for the best to watch extensive footage on the tubes before wasting 46 eurodollars

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:Consoles ruin games...

+1

It reviews extremely well for a PC game... but then, at some level PC gamers have a huge case of abused Dog syndrom, where if someone gives you a biscuit we'll happily take a few slaps to the chops, as long as it's not too particularly cruel.

To me: it looks fun, but it's a bastardization of what X-Com is supposed to be.

Apparently the whole game isn't as linearly scripted as the demo missions, looks like they botched the demo by all accounts.


But it's got much much smaller squad sizes than the original...

Johannes wrote:Apparently the whole game isn't as linearly scripted as the demo missions, looks like they botched the demo by all accounts.


But it's got much much smaller squad sizes than the original...

On squad sizes: I've heard many argue this is a positive thing. In my opinion it's sacrificing strategy for tactical game play and pacing. At very least it removes the boring phenomena of cycling through 12 units turns when most of them have nothing better to do than stand around.

8 snipers 4 scout fodders.. there's always something to shoot at

I wet my pants two ways playing this game

It is fucking awesome

Like they really took the old xcom and made it in 2012

My mind is blown

Seems games these days take themselves much more seriously than before....
In a mainstream title you usually don't see any quirky cool "unpolished" stuff that would make you feel like you are improvising and gaming the game...
All you can do in games these days must be under complete control of the devs....

stop the hate

I found poly bugs in my version

all is well with the world

that sounds like a pretty gleaming review beyond the niggles and bugs.

also col krouse is particularly wonderful looking.

IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS DOWNLOAD THIS GAME NAO AND CHECK IT OUT


THE ONLY REASON I AM NOT PLAYING IT RIGHT NOW IS THAT IJUST GOT A JOB AND I WAS OUT CELEBRATING