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Deep-Seated Denial

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 02:53
by FizWizz
I know it's already several days old, but...

G.W.Bush said at a veteran's day speech: "While it's perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began..."
he is accusing others (the democratic party, of course) of trying to re-write history here...

honestly, what the hell is wrong with him?

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 04:05
by [K.B.] Napalm Cobra
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 06:00
by Zoombie
Oh wow.

Bush really needs a doctor. He needs help. All of our help.

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 21:22
by AF
I think GW Bush should stop trying to make us think he's intelligent and face the fact that he has the intelligence of a 'berry bush', in most cases.

I dont knwo about people in america but in my house we're udner the impression that america wotn vote for him next tiem and we're unsure about whats happening with whose going up for what? My mum says that hillary clinton'll be there, but eitherway she's a better candidate than the likes of GW Bush

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 21:36
by raikitsune
actually that was in response to a lot of democrat Senators saying they'd never agreed with the war in the first place even though there are recorded invterviews of them saying they needed to go to war and such forth.


(not en endorsement of GWs ideas and wars but giving reasoning to his statment)

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 22:54
by Zoombie
Alantai Firestar wrote:I think GW Bush should stop trying to make us think he's intelligent and face the fact that he has the intelligence of a 'berry bush', in most cases.

I dont knwo about people in america but in my house we're udner the impression that america wotn vote for him next tiem and we're unsure about whats happening with whose going up for what? My mum says that hillary clinton'll be there, but eitherway she's a better candidate than the likes of GW Bush
We wont vote for him again because A) He's one of the most unpopular presidents i have ever heard of...aside from Nixon. and B) He CANT run again. Its only two times then they are out of the white house for good. And good riddence.

Now it would be nice to have hillery clinton in the whitehouse. Just as a change of pace, you know

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 23:13
by Caydr
I watched a CNN debate between a republican and a democrat official... it was hilarious watching the republican guy try to justify what Bush has done while in office. He actually made the argument that, rather than wait for someone to show any signs of hostility, it is better to make a pre-emptive strike.

What I _really_ don't understand is why Americans can be so ignorant to think that simply voting for "the other party" will help anything. Two parties, neither of which will keep its campaign promises and which both have hidden agendas. It's like deciding between death by evisceration or death by quartering.

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 23:26
by Zoombie
I've never heard America's political system described so eloquently.

Why dont we vote for both and get evicerated. Then quartered

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 00:05
by Archangel of Death
Because the media won't get paid anymore. If they try to force both sides down the general public's throats at once, they will be rejected by both sides for helping the enemy. :roll:

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 00:40
by FizWizz
Caydr wrote:...
What I _really_ don't understand is why Americans can be so ignorant to think that simply voting for "the other party" will help anything. Two parties, neither of which will keep its campaign promises and which both have hidden agendas. It's like deciding between death by evisceration or death by quartering.
If it were any other administration (except maybe Truman, he was a real upstanding person) I would agree with you. However, the amount of world-screwing that Bush's white house has committed in these last 5 years is so mind-staggeringly huge that it just isn't the same here. It won't stop in 2008 either. The dirty tricks, utter lack of ethics, and awful "my way or the highway" mindset is not just isolated to the current administration, it's party-wide, it's present throughout the Republican leadership.

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 03:23
by Sheekel
I have a solution!

A Spring Utopia!

We will purchase a small, private island in the south pacific, and play spring! no political worries: I think all of us can get along (exept for caydr! Damn you caydr!)

Seriously though, it could work. We live in hanging gardens while we are fed grapes and waffles (mmm...waffles). Everyone has a top of the line computer, and there is no lag. New releases come out everyday because we clone 10 developers.

And if there are any disputes, we settle them with a spring battle!

huzzah!!!!

The only problem is obtaining the island/money/computer/clones/sevants/hanging gardens/grapes/waffles.

oh...and caydr....just kidding!

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 08:23
by Gillmor_TA
The government is just a muppet play anyways who cares whos in office, its only a matter of time till we end up with something like 1984 or a civil war

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 17:32
by Caydr
Hey, you know, guns are highly legal in america. I bet there's 10 times more armed citizens than national guard and army combined... You hate bush, overthrow him. It's worked before...

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 17:36
by SinbadEV
problem is that at lest 50% "voting population" and the "gun toteing population" support bush, add to that the military and he stays in power...

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 17:38
by AF
1984 couldnt happen with the way it's all running now. The world has been comercialised too much, the amalgamated power of the numerous cosnortiums and companies is enough to topple any government.

The media by itself has the power to finluence who is in government. I predict that in 300 years governments wont matter as much to the average person. The control they wield will have been moved greatly towards the individual and we'll be a commercial society even more so than today.

The government will be a moral enforcer of public safety, and the control will be in the hands of huge companies. Nobody will care as much about wars and borders, because it wouldnt be profitable.

Regardles sof who is in charge of america, america cant keep its position the way its going. The american government is acting more and more like a company, and more and more agressively. Why else research advanced weaponry in a world at peace. They should be spending their millitary budget on filling the trade deficit and economic prosperity.

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 17:51
by SinbadEV
really... you don't even need to find an island... just find some emty land, build a farm/community/etc... incorporate and make all citizens of the town "employees" in a "not for profit organization" so that no taxes are payed... donate excess production to charity and live idillic lives sharing the work (10 hour shifts, 3 times a week shared among enough people we should be able to produce more then we need [most farmers produce a couple hundred times their own needs for food and sell it to buy other needs, and they work 10 hours a day 7 days a weeks... we just split the work up more])... the rest of the time we sit around talking, writing novels, playing video games and programming...

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 18:01
by SinbadEV
I forgot... we should probably sell excess production so we can buy better computers... so we can skip the charity... maybe we can set up schools to teach people to read and use computers or something instead...

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 18:05
by AF
Maybe I can work on AI for the next 20 years and visit this island then build ltos of war machines and conquer the world by pushing a big red button. More economic then wasting food and farmers, make them build a set of huge reactors and it's all sorted.

Posted: 20 Nov 2005, 18:08
by SinbadEV
That's true... if we can come up with an efficient and harmless energy source we just sell it back to the local power grid and live off that... I'd still feel better if we were producing our own food somehow... it's also a better start if the final goal is "world domination by way of giant robots" instead of "living in peeace and harmony with video games...