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Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 12:34
by SirArtturi
Hi'ya

Panda is sad. He can't play spring anymore.

His mouse suddenly got broken. The wheel aint working anymore. It was a fancy wheel.

Anybody else have a same mouse or same problem? Any ideas how to fix it? I think the warranty still might cover it, but panda has no idea where the receipt is...

Logitech MX 610:
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Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 12:58
by Hoi
Usually the mouse wheel has a small tube extending out of it in a hex-shape which fits into a small chamber, and when you rotate the wheel the chamber also rotates which gives the rotation signal.

After years of heavy use the hex-shape becomes round and doesn't fit the chamber anymore, making the scroll not work anymore. What you could do is open your mouse, take out the mouse wheel and use a bit of superglue to glue it to the chamber. Make sure to use the glue on the correct side so you don't make it impossible to rotate the mouse wheel and also after applying the glue keep rotating it every now and then for at least 20-30 minutes to make sure you didn't make a mistake.

However, check how the wheel works first, you need to be sure the used mechanism can be fixed with a bit of glue. Some mouses are more complicated and on those it doesn't work.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 13:17
by knorke
once you are certain that 1) warranty is over 2) it is not a software thing:
unscrew ALL the screws! and look inside.
From what I have seen there seem to be 2 common ways for the mousewheel turn sensor thingy:
1) Remember the old mouses with the ball that drove little wheels with holes? The holes were read by a photo sensor. Same mouses use the same thing for the scrollwheel. The sensor can become obscured by dirt so carefully clean it.
2) The scrollwheel rotates some funny shaped axle with cams that press on a switch. The axle can become too round or the switch can come lose or w/e. Most simple is to try to get the switch closer to the axle but that depends how it is build etc.

In the meantime page up&down keys can be used to zoom in Spring ;)

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 14:45
by Jools
And J can be used instead of middle click.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 16:47
by SirArtturi
Ouch!

Panda haven't opened a mouse since times of ball mouse. Optical mouses are actually pretty expensive enough to get 'screwed'.

But I guess I'll do it anyway before buying a new one.

Thx.

Btw, how it could be a software thing? You mean I should try different drivers?

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 17:17
by Jools
You can get a (basic) optical mouse from the valintatalo for like 15 €. Bought one to my netbook and now I ended up using it to my desktop too, because the old one is so big and heavy.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:12
by SirArtturi
yew, thats vulgar!

I want design!

Whatsoever this is a wireless mouse. I dont want to buy crappy wireless.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:47
by 1v0ry_k1ng
im pretty sure the basic microsoft optical mouse (£2 off the internet) is still superior to 99% the competition in terms of comfort.

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heil!

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 18:51
by very_bad_soldier
Every time I tried something else than Logitech I ended up being pissed and coming back to Logitech. G400 currently (<30€).

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 20:23
by Jazcash
very_bad_soldier wrote:G400 currently (<30€).
G300 here :P They had a 40% of all Logitech products deal a few weeks ago. I got about £20 off it, pretty pleased with it. Upgraded from a MX518 too which served me well.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 20:24
by KaiserJ
g9x is like a hand massage

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 20:50
by Jazcash
Btw Artturi, have you got the latest Logitech mouse software? You should be able to reprogram the forward/backward buttons on your mouse to scroll up and scroll down.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 21:04
by SirArtturi
Ok updated latest setpoint software.

Works now occasionally, but still rarely. It feels it misses most of the scrolls.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 14:54
by Columbus
The wheel can't be broken..

For already years, manufacturers have used optical sensors for reading the scrolling wheel input. Also, this mouse HAS an optical sensor there AFAIK.

I say take it apart and clean all your finger grease out of it, it might work :-)

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Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 17:13
by SirArtturi
I have the wheelsystem on my hand but the last screw is so small and screwed so tight that I think I'm screwed with my current screwdriver :(

Anyway, It seems like mechanism (the 'hammer' or whatever it is) is moving very little. Could that be the problem?

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 17:31
by maackey
Where did you get it from? Fortunately I got my logitech trackball from newegg and they store all my receipts so I didn't have to find anything special to get a replacement.

Perhaps you can send a mail or call the vendor and ask if they have a record of your purchase? Credit card company might have one too if you used one.

I pulled mine apart too trying to fix it but it was too much of a hassle compared to just asking for a new one.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 18:05
by SirArtturi
Oh hi again!

Im back in the business and rolling with my mx610 again!

Sorry I missed your post columbus. You were right, It just needed some cleaning.

So thank you and thank ya'll!

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 19:52
by PicassoCT
all that blood can get your mouse stuck. So clean the rat after every victory!

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 25 Nov 2011, 22:26
by Panda
SirArtturi wrote:Hi'ya

Panda is sad. He can't play spring anymore.
Some guy has named himself after me.

Re: Mousewheel is broken - cant play spring

Posted: 26 Nov 2011, 12:01
by PicassoCT
You should lawsuit him, and close his pages down with sopa.