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Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 03:23
by Beherith
Thanks to All who worked to make this possible!
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7.42-->7.50
- Fixed EMP affecting units that weren't supposed to be
- Fixed 2 crashes related to ATI cards
- Reverted both HLT hitpoints change back to 7.31 levels.
- Arm HLT buildtime raised (9575->12500)
- Core HLT buildtime raised (9622->12650)
- Pitbull, Viper damage reduction restored when closed (50%)
- Idle autoheal reverted.
- Antinuke now stockpiles again (build cost reduction remains in place).
- Fighter HP upped from 50->125.
- T2 bombers now line-bomb again but with less saturation (more like an improved t1 bomber)
- T2 bombers now release their bombs as they fly over their target not before
- EMP bomber has been modified to similar rules to the above and reintroduced.
- Arm Blade HP increased (1800->2675), weaponry changed a bit (bit more burst damage with longer reload).
- Restored cruise altitudes on aircraft.
- Unit kidnap preventing is now a mod option, select "All", "Commanders Only" or "None" at your leisure (Default: Commanders Only).
- Core Goliath HP decreased (8200->7000).
- Core Tremor HP increased (2045->2700).
- Arm Gremlin acceleration increased.
- Arm Maverick now aims faster and unholsters guns more swiftly.
- Arm Recluse missile accuracy increased.
- Arm Spider LOS range increased (360-550) - use them as scouts for Recluses
- Core Termite metal/energy costs decreased 10%, weapon now fires faster for less damage (same dps).
- LRPCs now gain a bit less range from height (heightmodboost 20->10)
- Energy converter conversion should now better match 7.31 metal makers
- Packo/Sam reloadtime and damage cut (faster shooting, sameish DPS).
- Bantha is EMP resistant (was in 7.42 but not changelog)
- A few effects improvements (krog heatray, bantha cannons, vulcan shell casings, etc)
Full commit history can be found at
here
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Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 03:57
by Petah
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 04:00
by smoth
good on ya'
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 04:09
by Niobium
Beherith wrote:- Energy converter conversion should now better match 7.31 metal makers
Just a quick note on this one, as I don't think TFC was properly aware of the effect of his changes.
Here is a quick summary of metal makers in varying versions of BA:
[code]7.31
T1 Normal: 60 @ 60:1
T1 Floati: 60 @ 55:1
T2 Normal: 600 @ 50:1
T2 Underw: 600 @ 46:1
7.42
T1 Normal: 60 @ 50:1
T1 Floati: 60 @ 50:1
T2 Normal: 600 @ 50:1
T2 Underw: 600 @ 50:1
7.50
T1 Normal: 60 @ 60:1
T1 Floati: 66 @ 60:1
T2 Normal: 720 @ 60:1
T2 Underw: 780 @ 60:1[/code]
Basically in 7.50 the capacites are all over the place (and don't match the number in the unit description), as well as all metal makers being nerfed ~20% relative to 7.42 (Despite the commit message being 'fixed stealth nerfs which were made in the energy conversion gadget').
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 04:17
by Nixa
Also note that when LRPC's are selected in the build menu their full potential range will not be displayed currently. One must start the building and select it to see the range boost effect.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 04:31
by Johannes
Thumbs up for these changes!
What's with not documenting the changes to the damage classes properly in the balance changelog though? Like aa turrets doing more damage to gunships, t1 fighters doing much less dmg to gunships and much more to t2 bombers, etc etc. I got the impression this was a mistake but there's no documentation nor change here still.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 04:36
by Nixa
The main focus of the release today was the a) fix the bugs and b) ensure all changes were properly discussed between the devs.
With regards to damage classes, yes that was a mistake. Even with the amount of time put into making sure those were still relative to old BA the task was huge and there were bound to be mistakes (probably others aswell so if you find one please note this here). There will be corrections for these in next release
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 05:05
by Gota
Very good release, and changes.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 05:18
by smoth
Johannes wrote:What's with not documenting the changes to the damage classes properly in the balance changelog though?
go look at the commit logs. "but but I want a better format" yeah go look at the times, the guy has been busting ass all day.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 07:23
by gonpost
This definitely gets gonpost's seal of approval.
I love the tweaks you've made to several units. You know why? Because you're making many other units viable that aren't as viable at the moment. This is what balancing's all about, and I love it.
I'll still gripe about the 4000 range on LRPC, but otherwise this all looks fantastic.
Thanks Behe/Nio/TFC/Nixa.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 07:24
by Nixa
Don't forget Deadknight, VBS and nixtux these guys do alot too.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 07:25
by Wombat
welcome back TFC <3
looks cool
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 08:52
by ginekolog
It seems like a good set of changes.
Air superiority was nerfed and some underused units got deserved buffs.
GJ
Could u upload last versions to
http://modinfo.adune.nl/ to make comparison easier?
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 09:31
by Johannes
Modinfo does not support lua files, which latest BAs are made of.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 10:08
by abma
nice! ba has some development :-D
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 10:10
by Nixa
I get 1 commander and 1000 e/m in single player (running from spring.exe). Are you running a master version of spring?
Oh you edited your post guess you have no problem now
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 10:13
by Masure
Great changes !
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 10:42
by abma
@nixa: yep. sorry problem was caused because of a wrong map...
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 11:04
by TheFatController
Niobium wrote:Beherith wrote:- Energy converter conversion should now better match 7.31 metal makers
Just a quick note on this one, as I don't think TFC was properly aware of the effect of his changes.
Here is a quick summary of metal makers in varying versions of BA:
[code]7.31
T1 Normal: 60 @ 60:1
T1 Floati: 60 @ 55:1
T2 Normal: 600 @ 50:1
T2 Underw: 600 @ 46:1
7.42
T1 Normal: 60 @ 50:1
T1 Floati: 60 @ 50:1
T2 Normal: 600 @ 50:1
T2 Underw: 600 @ 50:1
7.50
T1 Normal: 60 @ 60:1
T1 Floati: 66 @ 60:1
T2 Normal: 720 @ 60:1
T2 Underw: 780 @ 60:1[/code]
Basically in 7.50 the capacites are all over the place (and don't match the number in the unit description), as well as all metal makers being nerfed ~20% relative to 7.42 (Despite the commit message being 'fixed stealth nerfs which were made in the energy conversion gadget').
Okay I can see the metal make is right but the energy consumption is a bit off, this is a bug and can be fixed but I would like to point out never would have happened had you taken the values from 7.31 instead of messing around with them with no word in the changelog at all.
Re: Balanced Annihilation 7.50
Posted: 30 May 2011, 11:39
by Cheesecan
Good call on the changes, compromise is good.
