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Is spam supposed to be a BA gameplay mechanic? Honestly it seems that spam should be nerfed. I am speaking about arm in particular. Flash spam is an early game-ender, and stumpy spam is gg.

eh?

!vote kickban d_b

Yes cause nobody likes porc ! Any tactic besides spamming tanks and more tanks is frowned upon as noobish and/or cheesy.

Set your factory waypoint to enemy base

im not concerned about the role of units as much as I am concerned about the mechanics of single unit spam. Often, it results in more porc because noobs expect ZOMG T3H FLAESHES and spam llt and hlt bs in dsd.



Edit: this or make better anti-spam units. Currenty the best antispam is porc, and a couple core units particularly stunners. However stunners are now broken, so....

lev > flash

Wombat wrote:lev > flash

Yep, if you're getting owned by a single type of unit, it's your own fault, because there's always a counter to that unit. Levelers own flash, Janus does a decent job with some help from a couple LLTs or something.

So what

Mav wrote:

Wombat wrote:lev > flash

Yep, if you're getting owned by a single type of unit, it's your own fault, because there's always a counter to that unit. Levelers own flash, Janus does a decent job with some help from a couple LLTs or something.

What counters stumpies?

Sabutai wrote:So what

Mav wrote:

Wombat wrote:lev > flash

Yep, if you're getting owned by a single type of unit, it's your own fault, because there's always a counter to that unit. Levelers own flash, Janus does a decent job with some help from a couple LLTs or something.

What counters stumpies?

Janus, flash, levelers, bladewings, turrets that are protected by units, t2 tanks, mines etc etc

Depends on The Situation

Janus is horrible antispam, wtf?

that was written by a ba noob.

also it lists 10 things to counter, only 2 of which are arm, and only 1 is t1. and that is a static turret.

so when you are arm, i guess the best thing to do is porc. Hmmm see my point?

d_b wrote: so when you are arm, i guess the best thing to do is porc. Hmmm see my point?

Not really.

d_b wrote:Janus is horrible antispam, wtf?

Not if micro'd properly. Janus can fire backwards, you see a Flash spam and you start moving your Janus away from them. They have longer range than Flash, so they can manage to blow up quite a few before Flash get in range. The impulse from the Janus rockets cause the Flashes to get disoriented and slow them down, and one Janus rocket can nearly destroy a tightly-packed group of Flash.

Not as good as Leveler, but if you can't take out a Flash spam with an equal cost of Janus, you're not microing properly.

P.S. Anyone watch Janus versus Rocko/Storm spam? Epic.

Spamming stumpies requires a good metal income, if you can't counter it then it's probably because your metal income sux. If you were core you'd spam levelers and raiders and maybe mines (people don't use mines enough!)

spam stumpies yourself.

Otherside wrote:spam stumpies yourself.

No, he prefers warriors >_>



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JohannesH

Lev vs. Stumpies, really? No. Tried that. If stumpies are in play, it's because the battles are big. If the battles are big, the levellers will get snagged on wrecks and get pwned by the stumpies.

Vs Stumpies? More stumpies... and Beamers. Beamers are constantly underestimated.

okay. make the same cost of janus and flash. You will find that the janus get pwnt. they are slow and have very long reload time.

janus are only really useful against porc, or against a few stronger units (like levelers or a com). Also useful when placed behind warriors.

Pxtl wrote:JohannesH

Lev vs. Stumpies, really? No. Tried that. If stumpies are in play, it's because the battles are big. If the battles are big, the levellers will get snagged on wrecks and get pwned by the stumpies.

Vs Stumpies? More stumpies... and Beamers. Beamers are constantly underestimated.

I didn't say levelers alone, I said with raiders, and that's if your core... ofc you'd make stumpies if you were arm. Beamers suck.

Pxtl wrote:JohannesH

Lev vs. Stumpies, really? No. Tried that. If stumpies are in play, it's because the battles are big. If the battles are big, the levellers will get snagged on wrecks and get pwned by the stumpies.

Vs Stumpies? More stumpies... and Beamers. Beamers are constantly underestimated.

You trying something and failing with it doesnt prove a whole lot I'm afraid. Line of levelers is a bitch to deal with stumpies since you cant just throw them forward in masses, thatll get you killed by the aoe.