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TA: Final Frontier - 2 Ships Causing crashing

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 05:58
by Sorn
Mother and I have been bashing these ships over and over repeatedly.

If someone can help out to figure out why, that would be great!

Everytime corflag (Archon Core Communication Ship) and armflag ( Victory Arm Communication Ship) die, the client crashes. The error files have been sent via email.

I crashed every single time. Mother didn't crash as often. These are the only 2 ships that this happens with. We have tried changing settings for the game, I have played with settings on my system.

We have gone over the model, scripts, corpse information.

Something is happening that we don't have the experience/knowledge to fix. If any of you are gurus, please help us out.

http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=1488

Thanks!

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 12:13
by Fnordia
I've added a bit more errorchecking to the script interpreter. In this case it will now tell you:

CobError: Invalid piecenumber for explode
(in scripts\armflag.cob:HitByWeapon at c4)

instead of crashing.

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 13:09
by IMSabbel
Exception handling is something spring really could need more of...
Yesterday, the new release crashed me (and all players in the game) 4 times... with all standart setting.
I even have the demos that crash reproducably, but there is no error-dump, no message, nothing that would hint to what went wrong. Just that generic "blabla has encountered an error" box from windows.

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 13:19
by Fnordia
The error box is not the generic windows one, it collects a crashdump and the demo from the game and sends it to us so that we can fix it..

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 13:25
by Triaxx2
Does something similar happen with the OTA targetting facility? If so, that's because the Flagships also function as targetting arrays. Since spring incorporates this...

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 13:46
by IMSabbel
Fnordia wrote:The error box is not the generic windows one, it collects a crashdump and the demo from the game and sends it to us so that we can fix it..
oops (never looked _that_ closely, because when it appears i am usually impatiend and annoyed :D
well, then i will send away...


edit
Strange, the box only mentions something like "message microsoft", and the transfer took only about a seocnd, so there is no way it could have send the demo

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 14:17
by Fnordia
Hm.. It's possible that the custom crashhandler fails to activate for some reason. We do get crashreports fairly frequently though..

The screen should look like this:

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Perhaps we should customize it a bit more, it might be a bit too generic.

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 17:35
by Sorn
Fnordia, you rock. Thank you very much for finding that for me. The orginal modeller/scriptor misnamed 2 parts of the ship in the script,

On the model he had aerialRL, and aerialRR

In the script he had aerialLR, and aerialRR

Its nice to have more specific errors to be able to narrow down where the problem occured.

As a note, with the email that is sent with the crashlog, maybe include a spot int he modinfo.tdf to have the email of the person taking care of the mod and they get a CC of the email?

Thanks again!

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 18:38
by IMSabbel
Fnordia wrote:Hm.. It's possible that the custom crashhandler fails to activate for some reason. We do get crashreports fairly frequently though..

The screen should look like this:

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Perhaps we should customize it a bit more, it might be a bit too generic.
I have NEVER (in all those crashes) seen such a screen.

It always looks like this:
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There is no indication to whom the data is reported, and it looks EXACTLY like any other box that happens after spring crashed.

also, when clicking on "view whats being send", this appears:
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Some generic mumbo jumbo from mircosoft with things like "data wont be used for marketing, ect". Nothing at all about spring...

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 18:45
by Min3mat
i always get that screen
EDIT: (the send error screen i mean! i'm running english XP what are u running?)

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 20:15
by GrOuNd_ZeRo
I never got the windows crash window, maybe because you use the german(?) version of windows?

when I try to send the error report I usually can't send it for some odd reason...

Well, I haven't had a crash in a long time, well, i'll crash it with the AI and see if it will work, i'll copy/paste what it says shortly.

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I added the last part :) I thought it was fitting :P

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 20:19
by SinbadEV
I get both kinds of errors, and some just dead crashes without any warnings.

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 20:38
by FizWizz
Funny, I usually get the Spring-related crash window. I've never gotten the generic Microsoft crash window, although once or twice it just plain locked up on me.

Posted: 12 Sep 2005, 20:47
by Kuroneko
Why doesn't the release version have more debuging/error-catching information? It would be a big help to mod converters/developers.