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because as planes they move unrealistic compared to bombers and fighters,which look pretty good.





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srapop wrote:because as planes they move unrealistic compared to bombers and fighters,which look pretty good.

good idea.

adding some combat helicopter would be nice too :D

prankster wrote:
good idea.

adding some combat helicopter would be nice too :D

A combat helicopter would only enlarge CA┬┤s variety of Units,it has no real advantages against planes(in RL)
i see the point, having helicopters would be somehow cool :D
tank killer helicopter might be useful because it wont have to approach the tanks like an airplane(more vulnerable to AA though)

That is the AH-64A Apache, it is both tank killer and attack heli, has kind of CA-interesting long range missiles.a low poly model of it would look sexy.

a gunship and a transport.






some models of this,i know CA is short of modelers but it would be just awesome.

Find a role for this model (courtesy of PressureLine) that doesn't make one side overpowered and adds something to the game, and I will add it.

Post subject: Air Transports and Gunships should be Helicopters.

I think it was just a suggestion to replace the transport/gunship models we have now with copters. IIRC the Atlas/Valkyrie needs replacing doesn't it?

Ah, makes sense.

MidKnight wrote:Find a role for this model (courtesy of PressureLine) that doesn't make one side overpowered and adds something to the game, and I will add it.

this model looks quite awesome.
it looks like a gunship.could go rockets instead of EMG,just to be something new
if we want to change both core and arm gunships and carriers,we need FOUR heli models!
for first step, maybe replace banshee with the above model.(yay!)

Atlas also still needs model, it could be atlas with 2 gigantic laser headlights!

Gunships are down-jet VTOL aircraft. Like the Brawler or Banshee. The only example of a gunship that really doesnt fit its role is probably the rapier, since it does look like a plane (both the old and new models).

Remodelling them all to be helicopters would require significant art dev time, which we dont have much at all of.

In the future, helicopters are not helicopters IE they dont have big rotors. Its a terrible design for a combat vehicle.

In what future? Its more energy efficient to use lift from rotor.
Only problem is radar reflectivity and noise.

and the fact that it get's hit and your screwed. If you make a heli you better give it like 1 hp if u want it to be realistic.


Energy efficient? Thats 100% false. There are incredible amounts of turbulence generated by the rotor that actually work AGAINST lift.

Basically its a terrible design.

However i guess that would fit in to ca pretty well, and i would actually laugh out loud if i got to fps a heli in ca, so sure go ahead. Just telling you guys...

If rotor was less efficient than jet engines all helis would already use that. But there are just few crafts that use direct hovering and they sux, cant even hover properly fully loaded (harrier).
Helicopters can also use auto rotation to land gently if engine malfunctions. Direct hovering craft would fall down like rock.

Real world is not like CA, if helicopter gets hit by anything serious into any spot its dead. Does not matter if its rotor or jet engine.

Weapons beat armor.

Even if Tribulex were right, transports are made of paper anyway.

Licho wrote:In what future? Its more energy efficient to use lift from rotor.
Only problem is radar reflectivity and noise.

Well then you have no idea how top secret helicopters work today... Its been already solved but i decided not to say it.

we should focus on the topic.
for the guys complaining about the realism,that is why this thread is here.
since some gunships can be VTOL,we should just change the rapier.
if anyone wants to,(and has the time) he can still remodel the other ones,like valkyrie (BIG HEADLIGHTS!)and the simple gunships.

Or someone could retexture this heli and it could be rapier. I dont see reason why not.

If you compare the performance of the A-10 and the new unmanned drones vs. the Army helicopters, you can make a good argument that combat helicopters are a solution looking for a problem - only invented for bureaucratic reasons (the US Army is not allowed to operate fixed-wing aircraft).

Licho wrote:Or someone could retexture this heli and it could be rapier. I dont see reason why not.

Well, for 1faction or for CA? Because the model is distinctly unlike Logos.