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Why are there 2,T2 medium range plasma cannons?
They have similar range,similar costs...why are both needed?

Are you on about the Immolator and Punisher?

If so they have very different roles, immolator does huge damage, very accurate and big AoE.

Punisher has long range and doesn't cost a lot

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one is a slightly heavier but shorter range version of the other.
one has a bit more range but deals less dmg the other a bit less range deals more dmg costs more and eats tons of E per shot.

looks like they both have the same role.medium range bombardment.
with slight differences(relatively).
I suggest changing one to differentiate them otherwise one can be junked out and nobody would even feel the difference.

The redundancy of one of them in their current state becomes even clearer if you also consider the fact core have an overall of 4 medium range turrets in T2.
the 2 above plus the viper and the DD.

they have very different roles

babbles wrote:they have very different roles

OK.
Please elaborate.

eurgh

Immolator is meant to kill swarms, Punisher is for long range bombardment, eg, vs ships that are out of range of the immolator.

hmm...
Out of the 6 t2 ships the only ship that this would apply to would be the conqueror.
why not move the longer ranged turret to arm?
Arm only has 2.

you mean the guardian?

and doesn't the long range missle thingy outrange it? (may be mistaken)

and the battleship

T2 ships either outrange both of them or have shorter/equal ranges than both of them.
Except for the conqueror.

reply:
I mean the Punisher.
the other T2 medium ranged plasma cannon in Core's arsenal.

immolator = second best gun in the game (after anni)

punisher = bigger range popup

guardian / punisher are pretty much the same

A lot of their difference is perceived rather than actual, but yes, they are intended to have different uses

punishers are the t1 plasma but upgraded with larger range and power.

Immolators fire great big chunks of plasma that go BOOOOM, they're not as long ranged and they're more expensive. They fire great big blobs of pain. They don't need to be accurate as they have large AoE

AF wrote:They don't need to be accurate as they have large AoE

Inmmolator is deadly accurate.
Its role is to destroy anything in its range.

Its expensive, and if you have one, you are quite safe against medium assaults. it sets a perimeter of defense and obliteration.

Punisher does not secure a perimeter at all. It can be saturated by a small/medium assault. Its an artillery cannon, for long range harassment (not endgame tool, as low damage high e cost and is not accurate).

Think punisher has little more range, less damage and more splash compared to guardian.


Not the same role at all.

punisher:
Range = 1900
AreaOfEffect = 85
Accuracy = 600
dps = 142.86

immolator:
Range = 1500
AreaOfEffect = 144
Accuracy =
dps = 293.71

Immolators range isn't that small. ┬▒27% less then the punisher's range. If we want a more clear role for both of the cannons we could make the immolators range a bit smaller.
(hardly use those T2 defenes since i don't really like XTAs T2 defenses in general )

i like the immo to create death and fear :D