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underwater nano turrets - it just needs to happen

t2 con bots should be able to build adv solars - you have no hope of rebuilding if u can only build fusions

DarkDreams wrote:underwater nano turrets - it just needs to happen

This.

also krogs r 2 slo cn u maek them flai plzkthxbai

DarkDreams wrote:underwater nano turrets - it just needs to happen

BA's balance and units are not going to change....

Well, technically BA's balance never stopped changing. It just seldom changes drastically.

Construction ships have the best nano for cost in the game, slightly better, in fact, than nanotowers!

You would only want nanotowers for the ability to stack them easily around the shipyard- this is their only advantage.

Though i would say it would not hurt or change sea balance in any significant way if it had floating nanotowers (amphibious nanotowers are another matter) so there is no real reason not to have them either. In fact, BA should probably integrate all its land and floating variants into a single structure that can be built on either land or sea, to shorten buildlists and make everything all around cleaner and tidier. The only major exception would probably be the HLT. On how to do this, look at CA, especially older revisions when we were still using more 3do models.

Of course, again, this is really not changing anything significant. The only side effect of this would be that units that could not previously build the land/sea counterparts will be able to (IE, planes can make floating radars, conships can make them on islands).

DarkDreams wrote:underwater nano turrets - it just needs to happen

Nope.

@Saktoth

The problem is that land/sea versions of many units are different, like HLT. Still, you could probably amalgamate the MTs, radars, and add underwater nanotowers.

And Conships are even better than people think when you figure in their energy generation... on low-tidal maps, they're actually a good approach to your whole E econ.

Pxtl wrote:@Saktoth

The problem is that land/sea versions of many units are different, like HLT. Still, you could probably amalgamate the MTs, radars, and add underwater nanotowers.

Theyre not the same. Especially nanos.

And Conships are even better than people think when you figure in their energy generation... on low-tidal maps, they're actually a good approach to your whole E econ.

Wouldnt really recommnend basing your whole e on something that takes well over a minute to return the investment.

Let nanos build nanos.

Like in TA:CC.

add underwater nanos on con sub buildlist and a sonar jamming device too?

JohannesH wrote:add underwater nanos on con sub buildlist and a sonar jamming device too?

Maybe... I'd say just make normal nanos submersible though, and add then to the consub's (or probably, better, the conship's) buildlist.

Unless the U/W ones should be more expensive, in which case I see your point

I liked the idea of making the dragon's eye camera also be used on water. At least that would not affect any balance; both ARM and CORE got the same one, and it adds some tactical possiblities.

jumping cans plz also plz give comm boost like in CA tia

BA != CA

I don't think that's gonna happen.

:O

We should look at CA and take the best things into BA too dont you think

Underwater nanos are a huge change! Being able to totally hide your build power from anything but anti-sub weaponry is a very big deal, especially with reclaiming enemy units. Underwater nanopower is currently reserved exclusively for amphibious constructors from vech/amph lab. Floating nanotowers on the other hand, not so much.

Sonar Jamming is totally broken. It makes units completely immune to all forms of detection. With sonar jamming you can attack with total impunity. Sonar jamming would only work on a sonar jammer boat, which could be sniped to reveal the subs (ala Arbiter, but with no other form of detection...), i believe XTA has that. But even then it would be a huge change to the game.

At the way this thread is going but given the title what do you expect.

DarkDreams wrote:underwater nano turrets - it just needs to happen

The basic con ship is already vastly superior to a land nano turret. What more could you want?

(It's about 50 metal more in cost, and for that cost you get +50 build power, +30 energy, and +0.3 metal production)