Spring RTS Engine

The ugly default GUI plays a large part in scaring away noobs.
without wanting to inflate any egos, can we replace it with lolui? its simply better in every way.

Imo lolui isnt the slightest bit prettier than the default one. Rectangles with different levels of transparency are not pretty.

Scaring away noobs from what exactly?

This forum is for spring requests. If you feel noobs are being scared away from XTA or some other mod, post in that project's subforum.

Games and mods should provide their own GUI, it is as simple as that. The tools are there, and no game is well represented by a generic GUI. Updating the default will only undercut efforts to make game-specific GUI by sating a portion of the masses, it won't make the games much better, since any generic design must be open to random lua and be cluttered to meet all demands.

1v0ry_k1ng wrote:The ugly default GUI plays a large part in scaring away noobs.
without wanting to inflate any egos, can we replace it with lolui? its simply better in every way.

LolUI has some performance issues and was made with only *A mods in mind. Games should include their own UIs. If the default UI was to change to some widget then it could ruin the interface for those that rely on the default Spring UI (unless they override it etc).

So it's a very bad idea to do that.

Beherith wrote:Imo lolui isnt the slightest bit prettier than the default one.

You're blind.

Compare:

Default:


LolUI:


My setup:

Your argument sucks.

neddiedrow wrote:Games and mods should provide their own GUI, it is as simple as that. The tools are there, and no game is well represented by a generic GUI. Updating the default will only undercut efforts to make game-specific GUI by sating a portion of the masses, it won't make the games much better, since any generic design must be open to random lua and be cluttered to meet all demands.

+1

It is so easy to do this. There are so many different ways it can be done. THUS it is the GAME'S fault if it has an ugly gui. You can revise you argument to being "poorly designd GAMES" are scaring noobs away from spring.

Well then tell gui author to stop releasing shit to players. Evo uses redui. Any time someone has iceui or lolui or whateverthefuckui installed locally, spring either crashes or the gui itself goes fucking apeshit.

Forboding Angel wrote:Well then tell gui author to stop releasing shit to players. Evo uses redui. Any time someone has iceui or lolui or whateverthefuckui installed locally, spring either crashes or the gui itself goes fucking apeshit.

Hence why we locked out local widgets in CA, and users can explicitly disable the locking out at their own risk.

http://trac.caspring.org/changeset/6052

Forboding Angel wrote:Well then tell gui author to stop releasing shit to players. Evo uses redui. Any time someone has iceui or lolui or whateverthefuckui installed locally, spring either crashes or the gui itself goes fucking apeshit.

Report infologs to www.springrts.com/mantis

CarRepairer wrote:Scaring away noobs from what exactly?

This forum is for spring requests. If you feel noobs are being scared away from XTA or some other mod, post in that project's subforum.

last time I checked the default spring GUI was a spring related request

Regret, it isn't redui's fault. It's iceui's fault. red + lol don't usually crash, it just ends up with 2 chatboxes and shit kinda crazy.
Iceui locks p spring.exe on loading luaui.

@CR, nice! And it can be disabled user side? That's REALLY cool!

Forboding Angel wrote:Regret, it isn't redui's fault. It's iceui's fault. red + lol don't usually crash, it just ends up with 2 chatboxes and shit kinda crazy.
Iceui locks p spring.exe on loading luaui.

@CR, nice! And it can be disabled user side? That's REALLY cool!

lockluaui.txt, or make changes to luaui to only load certain widgets :)

dunno what you guys are talking about, but I've never had trouble/crashes running iceui (which looks better imo) with other ui frameworks present

Forboding Angel wrote:@CR, nice! And it can be disabled user side? That's REALLY cool!

Yeah, it's attracted CA a poopstorm of whinery in the past weeks. But unfortunately it's necessary because your point is right about 3rd party guis not being compatible with games. Back when spring was 99% *A I'm sure it made sense, but not today.

CA is *A

d_b wrote:CA is *A

Presently, yes, but Spring isn't.