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Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 15:30
by Gota
Some company is about to build a cement factory Near my neighborhood.
There is now a group of people from my neighborhood that are fighting this evil.
They have been giving out leaflets inviting as many people as possible to come and support the anti factory group in a meeting with the city's council and the mayor.

Ok springers,Should i lift my butt and go there to help fight the cement factory or should i play some more spring?

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 15:55
by Das Bruce
Why is the factory bad?

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 15:57
by Gota
Cause it means trucks of cement every day,air pollution from it,lower land value...

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 15:58
by Otherside
why are you asking an internet forum for there opinion.

cant you make your own opinions ??

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 16:01
by Gota
Otherside wrote:why are you asking an internet forum for there opinion.

cant you make your own opinions ??
lul,Yeah,you figured me out.

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 22:08
by Forboding Angel
Lower land value is the only thing on that list I would care about. I'd fight it just based on property values going down.

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 22:15
by Neddie
Why would you allow any one of the probable dozens of stores which represent a net negative impact on the environment through their sales of products generated and distributed through inefficient means and yet not allow a facility which merely doesn't hide a common destructive manner? Seems terribly superficial to me.

I don't really care what you do, but if you're asking on this forum, you probably want to sit around and play more Spring

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 22:25
by Jazcash
Free seaments!

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 22:30
by Pxtl
Honestly, if I were in that situation, I'd be cheering "yay, some actual work is appearing in my neighborhood! Maybe my city won't turn into Detroit now!"

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 22:31
by Argh
Cause it means trucks of cement every day,air pollution from it,lower land value...
1. The manufacture of cement is usually heavily regulated, due to silicosis concerns. I would be surprised, if Isreali standards were a lot lower than in most First World countries- silicosis is a serious illness, and a sloppily-run cement factory is not a joke.

That said... are they actually making it, or just mixing it for delivery? Two really different things there.

2. On the trucks... do they intend to do something really stupid, like route the trucks through housing developments? Or just the usual thing for a plant of this type- location that's fairly near a highway, so they can deliver the cement quickly where it's needed?

The first would really lower property values, and be an eyesore and safety problem. The second, not so much.

3. On the land value question, it really depends. Who is building it, where are they building it, and what is that land being used for now?

Are they planning to run the trucks at all hours, or just during business hours? Are the trucks they're using really loud? Is the equipment very loud?


I guess the thing is, it's hard to know whether it's worth protesting, without more information. On the face of it... people need cement, to build buildings with. It's just a fact of life. If they're not using land that could be put to a much better purpose, and they aren't making cement, just mixing it and delivering it, and they aren't planning on having huge trucks drive past people's houses at all hours, it's not doing a lot of harm, and it's providing some employment and taxes.

That said, it's a big industrial business, that does involve big trucks, and people should want questions answered before it opens up near them. I would be surprised, though, if the developer hasn't already tried to come up with a good plan to address these things. A factory like this is a very expensive project, after all, and they've already gotten the land rights and permits, so they've already convinced your local government that it will be done correctly.

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 16 Sep 2009, 22:55
by tombom
protest the fact that israel treats its arab citizens as second-class (+worse) instead

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 01:19
by Gota
tombom wrote:protest the fact that israel treats its arab citizens as second-class (+worse) instead
Tombom examples.
Enlighten me.
In what areas does that happen.

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 02:27
by Gnomre
can't you see

they're just building a concrete factory so they can pave over palestine

at least you'd never run short on parking space

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 07:53
by Noruas
Nah, companies have rights too... they need a place to live, they are sure nicer then the equal amount of space in poverty. LET FREEDOM $KA-CHING$

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 08:07
by tombom
Gota wrote:
tombom wrote:protest the fact that israel treats its arab citizens as second-class (+worse) instead
Tombom examples.
Enlighten me.
In what areas does that happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and ... id_analogy

wikipedia hurr but it's alright.

my favourite is the attempted banning of the arab parties before most elections, it's just so dumb

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 10:57
by KDR_11k
Mario's Cement Factory was one of my favourite Game & Watch games.

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 12:32
by [TS]Lollocide
Atleast if you pave over the Palestinians you wouldn't have to deal with all the fucking crying from Western bitches who can't shut their fucking mouths about shit that has nothing to do with them all the time.

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 12:34
by tombom
[TS]Lollocide wrote:Atleast if you pave over the Palestinians you wouldn't have to deal with all the fucking crying from Western bitches who can't shut their fucking mouths about shit that has nothing to do with them all the time.
you've opened my eyes, i'll stop caring about anything beyond my own country, thanks.

so what about the classism involved in portrayals of "welfare queens" pretty shit i tell you

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 12:49
by pintle
[TS]Lollocide wrote:Atleast if you pave over the Palestinians you wouldn't have to deal with all the fucking crying from Western bitches who can't shut their fucking mouths about shit that has nothing to do with them all the time.

lol wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Re: Cement factory

Posted: 17 Sep 2009, 15:44
by Gota
heh,Tombom,you are clueless.