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TheFatController

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 23:01
by Regret
Check PM when you get online.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 19 Jul 2009, 23:55
by Jazcash
You do realize PM's are set to 'Popup notification' by default? So when he logs on, he'll get a nice box popup telling him he has an annoying message from you. You wouldn't know this because nobody PM's you.

JKKKKKKKKSSS I <3 you.







Ban him.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 00:53
by TheFatController
Saw it thanks, will have to fix tomorrow tho, have fun in the meantime :?

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 02:40
by Regret
Alright, this can be deleted then.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 05:14
by YokoZar
Sweet, an exploit. My bet is he's got a script that causes a unit to fire faster than it's supposed to.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 05:21
by aegis
nah, that's me.
he's probably talking about a different exploit.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 08:41
by JohannesH
Invloves scouts and transports most likely.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 10:56
by Jazcash
The nap moving coms exploits? Don't you dare -_-

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 01:32
by TheFatController
I shouldn't give ETA's, wrote a fix but you can still sploit it rarely so need to make it more elegant, will prob be tomorrow now :p

A simple solution would be to make it so you can't even give a load order against a moving unit; does anyone have any arguments against this? (it would make it harder to pin a com with transports to disable dgun, dunno if that's a bad thing tho)

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 02:17
by lurker
Oh, is there an exploit? The transports accelerate faster when given rapid orders or something?

Because if you're complaining about being able to convince a transport to move half as intelligently as they did in OTA, matching speed, then I suggest you shift your focus.

And yes I see the issue in that it's braindead micro, unintended, but that doesn't reach 'exploit'.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 02:44
by JohannesH
lurker wrote:Oh, is there an exploit? The transports accelerate faster when given rapid orders or something?

Because if you're complaining about being able to convince a transport to move half as intelligently as they did in OTA, matching speed, then I suggest you shift your focus.

And yes I see the issue in that it's braindead micro, unintended, but that doesn't reach 'exploit'.
napping a moving com is what this is about. with a widget.

And no, dont disallow load orders on moving units, i do that even to my own units too all the time.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 02:49
by Regret
TheFatController wrote:A simple solution would be to make it so you can't even give a load order against a moving unit; does anyone have any arguments against this?
No. Terrible idea. It would put in abstract limits on order queuing.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 03:09
by lurker
Being unable to nap a com that's moving in a straight line as a regression from TA is a bug. So I ask again, does this behavior give the transports an agility boost or something?

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 03:16
by Regret
lurker wrote:Being unable to nap a com that's moving in a straight line as a regression from TA is a bug. So I ask again, does this behavior give the transports an agility boost or something?
A moving unit was always an unnappable unit. This new behavior that allows to nap a moving unit is considered an exploit due to it breaking this habit and with it the whole gameplay (FFA games f.e. are ruined).

It may be a bug that moving units can't be napped, but it became a feature, just like strafejumping in certain FPS games.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 12:36
by Kloot
No picking up of moving units needs to be a mod option anyway, not a defacto engine feature. I'll look at adding one for the next release.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 13:06
by Jazcash
See this is what you get when you report an exploit to the wrong people. They make it a mod option instead.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 13:11
by Regret
Kloot wrote:No
Nobody said it didn't, this is BA subforum and about BA, not about engine features.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 13:37
by Kloot
Except that this issue now exists in all *A's because of engine changes, this just happens to be the first forum topic about it. They can either all come up with the same custom Lua prevention gadget, or the engine can do it for them generically. I'm not here to babysit BA in particular, so you can leave your humorous misquotations at the door.

In any case, have fun fixing.

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 13:41
by Jazcash
I haz solution. We remove air transports!

Re: TheFatController

Posted: 21 Jul 2009, 13:51
by Regret
Kloot wrote:Except that this issue now exists in all *A's because of engine changes, this just happens to be the first forum topic about it. They can either all come up with the same custom Lua prevention gadget, or the engine can do it for them generically. I'm not here to babysit BA in particular, so you can leave your humorous misquotations at the door.

In any case, have fun fixing.
I was merely pointing out your 'No' had no meaning.