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Maschines
Posted: 12 Jul 2009, 13:02
by PicassoCT
Well, we are pretty used to maschinery, replacing the dangerous, hazard and monoton labour. But what if they are able to replace, inventiv jobs, scientific jobs, if maschines were good artists?
I came across to mutch of that lately, musicprograms who can improvise pretty good Jazz, who help to compose music, carengineering software that optimizes parts on its own..
What if software learns to use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ ?
Anyone ever thought about it? I mean IT no longer needing us?
Re: Maschines
Posted: 12 Jul 2009, 16:57
by Jazcash
Machines*
Re: Maschines
Posted: 12 Jul 2009, 17:06
by PicassoCT
Like autogramma- and typocorrectors, making even the nazis workless
Consida my typos a sort of social security, to make yourself not feel worthless
Re: Maschines
Posted: 12 Jul 2009, 17:15
by Jazcash
That's why I love speeking 1337 so much. You can't make typos.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 12 Jul 2009, 21:22
by Panda
Even though machines can produce some cool looking art, I doubt it would be quite the same thing as something produced by a human. The art work done by a human would be valuable as well, in it's own way, even if it ends up not being as popular as art work produced by a machine. I think that it would be sad to not have cool looking things like hand made gargoyle sculptures or well designed butterfly sanctuaries with statues, flowers, and areas where the butterflies can march around in circles and perform their puddling behaviors.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 12 Jul 2009, 21:52
by PicassoCT
So there is hope? Maybee we should add a fourth law of Robotics
4. I shall not do Art, no matter what.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 00:26
by Panda
No, I don't think that we should do something like that.
I don't think that a robot could be just like the artist in this article, though:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18524841.700
Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 04:39
by knorke
wow.
google for "Armagan blind" for some images, thats amazing.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 12:01
by AF
a painting by a blind man?

Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 12:07
by Wombat
in tv (ye rly tv, like 20 p.m) i saw program about 2 doods painting... one was using his poop second his penis to paint... im wondering who was buyng their... 's**t' D:
Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 22:03
by Panda
knorke wrote:wow.
google for "Armagan blind" for some images, thats amazing.
Wow, he has a mutation that caused him to be born without eyes and out did Filippo Brunelleschi, a Renaissance architect who lived 600 years ago and who's layouts are often messed up when other artists try to copy him. So, that's pretty cool, seeing also involves the sense of touch.
One of his paintings:

Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 22:25
by JohannesH
What if someone makes an AI that will beat all human players in BA? Or Starcraft??
And I have hard time believing that theres good improvised jazz.
Oh and arent photos better than paintings anyway.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 23:07
by Panda
JohannesH wrote:Oh and arent photos better than paintings anyway.
It's ok, we get it. You don't know how to accept the intrinsic value of paintings.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 13 Jul 2009, 23:40
by ChaosMonkey
humans are basicly just complex machines made out of weird materials. i think it is inevitable that one day the machines we make will become better than us and wont need us any more like in matrix or terminator
Re: Maschines
Posted: 14 Jul 2009, 00:29
by Jazcash
ChaosMonkey wrote:humans are basicly just complex machines made out of weird materials. i think it is inevitable that one day the machines we make will become better than us and wont need us any more like in matrix or terminator
Oh, another danuker follower. No, machines will never be capable of actually thinking for themselves. Ever.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 14 Jul 2009, 10:07
by Wombat
yes, but simple windows calculator is smarter than us and would pwn us all :<
Re: Maschines
Posted: 14 Jul 2009, 12:47
by Jazcash
Wombat wrote:yes, but simple windows calculator is smarter than us and would pwn us all :<
BUT CAN IT FIND X?
Re: Maschines
Posted: 14 Jul 2009, 12:48
by Wombat
nobody is perfect, even Bill Gates or Me... :<
Re: Maschines
Posted: 14 Jul 2009, 12:49
by Jazcash
Wombat wrote:nobody is perfect, even Bill Gates or Me... :<
Chuck Norris.
Re: Maschines
Posted: 14 Jul 2009, 13:02
by Wombat
omg u said the name of 'One-You-Know-Who'... u are so dead, even combomb wont save u....